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Keeping the Faith #28465
Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:54 AM
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There have been almost daily stories in the local news about how good churches are helping in the relief efforts. For some reason when I see headlines such as Keeping the Faith or practicing what they preach along with the articles, it rubs me the wrong way. The main focus of the church is not in helping out to those in need, but the gospel. Why do so many have the gospel wrong, even within the church. It is not a works-based enterprise.

I'm saying this in the fact that the PCA has a massive relief effort where my church is one of the central sites and I've been helping some. However, although what we do is needed and serves as a witness for Christ, it is not what we are about.


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"having been firmly rooted and now being built up in Him and established in your faith . . ." Colossians 2:7
Re: Keeping the Faith [Re: John_C] #28466
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John_C said:

The main focus of the church is not in helping out to those in need, but the gospel. Why do so many have the gospel wrong, even within the church. It is not a works-based enterprise.


I understand what you are saying and you're right the church is not a works based enterprise. Maybe for some people that's what they think it's for. However, it should be compassionate and provide a ministry of mercy as part of its witness to Christ. Sometimes this opens up the opportunity to share the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

There's something in all human beings (not just church members) that makes us want to help those who need our help because it makes us feel good about ourselves. Even the Government does this through welfare programs and emergency aid. However, the church's role is not only the physical well being of the people they serve but their spiritual condition as well.


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When I survey the wondrous cross on which the Prince of Glory died, my richest gain I count but loss and pour contempt on all my pride. - Isaac Watts
Re: Keeping the Faith [Re: Wes] #28467
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Good post Wes <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/BigThumbUp.gif" alt="" />

What would it look like to the world if they started thinking we are only interested in them as brownie points?
Sometimes it is only in acts of compassion that through the eyes of many we earn the right to share the Gospel.

Tom

Re: Keeping the Faith [Re: Tom] #28468
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Sometimes it is only in acts of compassion that through the eyes of many we earn the right to share the Gospel.

"Earn the right"? I'm a little confused. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> Does not our "right" (authority) to preach the Gospel come from God Himself regardless of how other people feel or what they think? Can you explain this more please?

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Re: Keeping the Faith [Re: Pilgrim] #28469
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I think what Tom meant was that some people think we have to "earn" the right to proclaim the Gospel.

I don't think Tom was saying this was correct thinking.


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Re: Keeping the Faith [Re: MarieP] #28470
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While it is prudent to consider carefully where and how financial gifts are used, I think that we do have a responsibility to be generous toward those in need especially our brethren.

So then, as we have opportunity, let us do good to everyone, and especially to those who are of the household of faith.
Galatians 6:10

Consider Isaiah 58. Do we really do as much as we ought? Of course, the Lord loves the cheerful giver. When I was in the Ukraine, I was quite moved by the generousity of the Ukrainian brethren notably as they have very meager means and here in the US, we have an abundance. We are an affluent nation and can afford to give generously for to much is given, much is required.


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All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by frost.
- - - -JRR Tolkien "Lord of the Rings"

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