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#29580 12/05/2005 10:07 PM
by knoxandcalvin
Double predestination sound logical.
What you think?
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#29581 Dec 5th a 10:40 PM
by Pilgrim
knoxandcalvin said:
Double predestination sound logical.
What you think?
That all depends on how you define the word "double"? Theologically, there are two opposing views, "Positive" and "Negative". Supralapsarians hold to a "positive" double predestination and Infra/Sublapsarians hold to a "negative" double predestination. For an excellent explanation on these terms and how they are expressed by the two sides, read this article by R.C. Sproul, Sr. here: Double Predestination. bigglasses
In His grace,
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#29583 Dec 6th a 01:59 PM
by Pilgrim
You need to understand the ORDER of the "Decree(s)" as set forth historically in Systematics. The Supra system does not hold to any "passing by" of the reprobate but rather holds to a "positive" double predestination, i.e., in regard to salvation, both elect and reprobate were predestined to their respective ends before God even determined to create them and without any regard to the Fall.

Read these:

Development of the Doctrine of Predestination - Herman Bavinck

Supralapsarianism and Infralapsarianism - Herman Bavinck
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#29586 Dec 6th a 06:46 PM
by Pilgrim
Kalled2Preach said:
I will readily acknowledge that God has predestined everyone to either go to heaven or hell, my only question is, how does debating this issue help with the spreading of the gospel? What about the big words? . . .
[Linked Image] Why are you denigrating the discussion of theology on a THEOLOGY FORUM? And what do such discussions have to do with the irrelevant topic of bringing the Gospel to unbelievers? Start a new thread if you are wanting to discuss your concerns, e.g., what should be the content of the Gospel, etc.

What is relevant and one of the purposes of this Board is summed up nicely by the writer of Hebrews <------- is that too big of a word to use? giggle

Hebrews 5:11-14 (ASV) "Of whom we have many things to say, and hard of interpretation, seeing ye are become dull of hearing. For when by reason of the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need again that some one teach you the rudiments of the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of solid food. For every one that partaketh of milk is without experience of the word of righteousness; for he is a babe. But solid food is for fullgrown men, [even] those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern good and evil."
Anyone desirous of wanting to bring the Good News to sinners had better be skilled in the Scriptures. (2Tim 2:15) And further, that person had better be 100% positive that what he/she is speaking about is the true Gospel and not some dumbed down version that is nothing more than "another gospel". (Gal 1:7, 9)

In His grace,
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