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I found out there are a few politicians out there, that are openly pro-life. However, in politics they do not believe they should use their office to try to overturn Roe vs Wade. Therefore, when the issue comes up in a political setting they abstain.
Some people say that if they do this they are actually pro choice, not pro-life.
While I believe there is nothing wrong with using a political office to support pro-life. I have no idea why they think it they should abstain. However I am not sure it is fair to go as far as some do in saying a politician is actually pro-choice if they refuse to use their office for pro-life causes.
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However I am not sure it is fair to go as far as some do in saying a politician is actually pro-choice if they refuse to use their office for pro-life causes.
1. Roe vs Wade should be overturned for several reasons, e.g., it is unconstitutional by denying the guarantee to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness to any citizen, regardless of their physical/mental condition or stage of development. And, the ruling of SCOTUS itself was unconstitutional for it went beyond its official responsibility to apply the law and took upon itself the responsibility of the legislative branch which makes law.

2. A politician, in theory (this rarely is the case anymore) is to represent the will of the people which voted him/her into office. Thus if the politician's constituency is pro-life, then that is what he/she must fight for. Since Roe vs Wade was an illegal ruling, it should be every politician's goal to have it nullified and let Congress and the Senate decide whether there should be laws regarding abortion... Or, turn this matter over to the States to make their own laws, which I believe, due to the Constitution's guarantee of life must be upheld by the Federal government.

3. There are several petitions currently being circulated which deal with Life at Conception, which I doubt will ever see the light of day now since the Congress is going to be run by the Demorats, and since it couldn't have been passed by the Republican run Congress and Senate for two years. However, the "Life at Conception" bill would be the most effective way to overturn Roe vs Wade because in its ruling, SCOTUS wrote was that the issue of when life begins was not under consideration in that case. HOWEVER, IF that issue was presented at some future time, it would consider it. And of course, if SCOTUS actually took the case and ruled that life does indeed begin at conception, which is scientifically incontrovertible, then it is very possible that Roe vs. Wade could be overturned by a conservative judiciary. THAT is why the Socialist Democrats tried everything to block the appointment both Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court.

4. Lastly, if a politician refuses to work to implement the will of the people he/she represents, then he/she should be recalled and removed from office. To say that a politician who publicly supports the Pro-Life cause but fails to work toward that goal is actually "Pro-Death", aka: Pro-Choice, would not necessarily be true. It may effectively further the Pro-Death agenda by being silent, which is another matter entirely. Most politicians will say what people what to hear to get elected and then once elected, their goal is to make as many contacts which will result in a plush job after they are out of politics, and to make as much money as they can while in office. There are exceptions, of course, but such individuals are few and far between. [Linked Image]


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