Joe,

Have you finished your refutation yet?

Guess who I just called me today wanting me to look up something for him...Laurence Vance, all the way from Florida! He wanted me to find a quote by Cardinal Hosius, which I just found and will fax to him.

I thought the name sounded familiar, and he had told me our library probably had one of his books. He mentioned his book on Bible translations, but he didn't (on purpose?) mention the Other Side of Calvinism.

On the more recent thread on TOSOC, it was mentioned Mr. Vance spoke of the number 5 meaning death and the 5 points of TULIP. That really irks me. I'm glad I didn't realize it was his book until after I spoke with him. Hey...the title to his book has FIVE WORDS IN IT!!!!!...

True godliness is a sincere feeling which loves God as Father as much as it fears and reverences Him as Lord, embraces His righteousness, and dreads offending Him worse than death~ Calvin