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RefDoc writes:
In this once bastion of the Reformed Faith, West Michigan appears to be spawning more than a few strange churches.
I don't know whether to be sad, or to laugh at the absurdity. Quote from the Grand Rapids Press:
"The church has basically done the same things for 100 years," he said. "The church has in many ways lost its relevancy with the culture. It has been our determination and purpose (at Daybreak) to stay relevant." Unfortunately this kind of unregenerate humanistic thinking fails to realize that the Bible will always be relevant. It's timeless message will never change. When people who call themselves Christians tire of the old old story they have lost their way. When our views of relevance and our efforts to redefine ourselves are captive to the seductions and pressures of modern culture we become irrelevant and unfaithful. Leadership at Daybreak, 3501 Baldwin St. in Hudsonville, has tried to find a cultural common ground with about 1,400 adults and students each week by mixing videos and animation, a fog machine, 20 movable light fixtures, simultaneous dance and drama and other high-tech multimedia into worship.
The stage changes with the theme of the service, and props have included a wrestling ring, a NASCAR stock car and a skateboard ramp. Dupin has given messages via video from the Grand Canyon, New York City streets and Las Vegas wedding chapels. Where in the Bible does it say we need to find cultural common ground with about 1400 people? This is ridiculous. John Piper writes, "We don’t own culture, and we don’t rule it. We serve it with brokenhearted joy and longsuffering mercy, for the good of man and the glory of Jesus Christ." He reminds us that a Christian is just passing through in his article entitled, "Taking the Swagger Out of Christian Cultural Influence""We usually do our services as a show," he said. "It's very entertaining. It's very production-oriented.
....."I don't want to bore people on Sunday," he said. "I want to make sure that message is contagious.
"We haven't changed the message, we've just wrapped it differently. We've put a different cover on the book, but the content is still the same." The message is loud and clear... give the people what they want, make it exciting and entertaining. RefDoc, I'm not laughing, this is sad indeed. Wes
When I survey the wondrous cross on which the Prince of Glory died, my richest gain I count but loss and pour contempt on all my pride. - Isaac Watts
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