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Hi Michael, The Gospel of Christ is not about mans free will. The Gospel of Christ is about God and His glory in the salvation of sinners. Only by the enabling grace of God, can man choose to accept the gift of salvation. Arminius wrote: All that the Father draw, will come to Jesus. All that are taught of the Father will come to Jesus. All that are given to the Son from the Father will come to Jesus. It would appear that from the verses that will follow that man still does not have a choice to reject Christ when God actively seeks the salvation for a sinner. So the Grace of God is irresistible to the sinner that is being drawn. "All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. The Jews then murmured at him, because he said, I am the bread which came down from heaven. And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven? Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves. No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me." (John 6:37-45) " And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father." (John 6:65)
JOHN "Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth." - ROMANS 8:33 geocities.com/johncw1000
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