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Do I understand you to be saying that since I am not a Calvinist, that I cannot be saved? In other words, by your testimony, that 1500 years of Christians ALL went to hell because there was no such thing as Calvinisim, forensic justification, and all the other baggage that comes with Reformed doctrines? That is the epistomological end of your argument, which is based on the idea that salvation incorporates not only faith in Christ's sacrificial work, but the holding of doctrines perfectly.

Proven false, no matter how desperately you attempt to assert it.

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As John Heny Bishop Newman, famous Anglican convert to the Church said "To go deep into history is to cease to be Protestant," meaning simply that there is simply no external evidence for the existence of anything other than the Catholic Faith prior to 1517 (unles you count on your side the multitudes of heretics such as the Arians, the Monophysites, Donatists, etc. that is company I most certainly would not wish to claim for my own!

I would repeat your charge concerning material from converts. I doubt it would matter. Oh, repeating somebody elses words doesn't answer the basic question of Biblical interpretation and the differences we have.

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You may, if you wish, impugn my education and intellgence. I will be the first one to tell you that I do not know everything. But the credentials of such men as Scott Hahn, Robert Sungenis, etc. are beyond question.

No, you may be educated, yet, you remain incorrect. The only thing I know of those two men is some articles and debates I read or listened to with James White. Needless to say, both got their respective tails pounded. Here are a couple of links to these things,

Tim Staples proves papal infallibility a myth,

Robert Sungenis and the bodily assumption,

Patrick Madrid helps prove Sola Scriptura.

I hope these help. Happy Holidays to you.


God bless,

william

Last edited by averagefellar; Sat Dec 25, 2004 9:53 PM.