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onefear said: I posted Barlow's piece on theological language, because I think that people who read Wright or anyone else should interpret what they read most favorably (charitably, if you prefer) to the author until given conclusive evidence that such a reading is not warranted. Sorry, but I have to disagree with Barlow and yourself on this matter when an author takes a long-established and fundamental doctrine, e.g., "Sola Fide" to task and challenges its veracity. The onus is upon the author to PROVE that the Church has erred, which Wright has tried to do yet failed miserably. Many a good man has showed Wright his error(s), yet he persists in promoting them, along with those of similar ilk, e.g., Shepherd, Saunders, Wilson, Barach, Schlissel, &co. This call for "tolerance" has been one of the major causes of heresies allowed into the Church. Every heretical group/individual that I can recall has consistently cried "foul" against those who have resisted their false teachings and accused them of intoleration, possessing an unloving spirit, etc., ad nauseam. I have no desire to "entertain" heretics in my home for the purpose of allowing them free-expression and/or an open forum to proliferate their false teaching. The Galatians were rebuked for doing exactly that and I for one am determined to learn from their mistake and not repeat it. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> It seems to me that many in the Evangelical Reformed camp also fall easily into an either-or trap where both-and is a possibility (this is one of the points in Meyers's piece). By advancing his thesis on justification, Wright isn't necessarily denying the veracity of our traditional Reformed thesis. . . Wright's writing is complex and subtle, and it is often hard work to discern his understanding of the concepts and ideas he writes about. O contrare, mon frere! Wright has clearly denied one of the most fundamental doctrines of the Christian faith, albeit in a way which is a compliment to the Father of Lies, who was the most subtle of all the animals of the Garden. His methodology is also typical of those who would desire to deny biblical truth, i.e., by using language familiar to the hearers but redefining its terms so that what he writes is not what it appears to be. Contrariwise, the Church has labored to be perspicuous in its Creedal and Confessional statements; both negatively and positively so as to guard against further error creeping into its midst. As one who is a Calvinist, I am genuinely suspicious of those who would desire to challenge the fundamental doctrines of the faith and especially those who speak in vague terms. I take seriously the doctrine of Total Depravity and its consequences as well as the long history of how the Devil has launched attacks against the sons of God. Most error has started from within the Church by those who were members in good standing and often of high repute. The door swings both ways..... Those in office should beware of the "bleating of the sheep" and the sheep should be on the lookout for wolves in sheep's clothing. "Showing mercy to the wolf is showing cruelty to the sheep."In His Grace,
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