SemperReformanda said:
I don't think I've ever met a consistent Arminian, then. I agree that consistent Arminians areb't saved.
Can you give me some examples (people, offical denominational staements, etc) that held/hold to consistent Arminianism?
Any church or denomination outside the "Reformed" camp. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> However, please understand the most salient point in all this, in regard to my own opinion on this, which I have stated myriad times: 1) A denomination/church can be judged according to its official "statement of faith, confession, etc.". 2) Individuals may
say they believe xxxxxxxx but what they profess to believe intellectually
may not be consistent with what they truly hold in their heart. This can only be determined, and that not absolutely, through personal dialog. Thus I think it is prudent, if one is to make a judgment in regard to individuals to be emphatic with the "IF"... i.e., IF you
truly believe that God saved you on the basis of your making a "free-will decision" for Christ (hardly a biblical teaching), e.g., in contrast to your neighbor who refuses to believe, then you have made your salvation dependent not upon God's sovereign undeserved grace, but upon your own "work of faith"!
For an excellent article on this crucial and fundamental difference, see here:
There are Only Two Religions in the Whole World, by John Reisinger. A related article can be found here:
Accepting Christ by I.C.Herendeen.
In His grace,