I have noticed in the various ExCharismata threads the type of church that you are describing, Caroline: long dresses, long hair, no jewerly, ect. That is nothing like my old church. In my opinion, it was male led but women driven. Most of the activities in the church revolved around women. Men's ministry never got off the ground. The only two ministries that men every participated in was building maintenance and sportsman's club (hunting and fishing).