You'll probably groan when you read this. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/sigh.gif" alt="" /> It seems that I am always asking questions here. And this one is a particularly 'touchy' question. But I'm going to start a thread anyway- I'll delete it if anyone wants me to. Mainly because if I don't, my elder will go stark raving mad. I think he has even started avoiding me somewhat. Every time I go up to him and ask to talk about this issue again I can hear him inwardly groan. "She wants to talk about that again!?! I thought we resolved that last time!" When I have a point of theology to resolve I just can't NOT resolve it. I shall have to work on patience.

Anyway, why do we say that Arminians can be saved though they believe in a works salvation? My elder keeps telling me that one can trust Jesus in the heart even if one does not intellectually understand some things. Politely- huh? Surely there is a bare minimum- namely that we trust Jesus' death alone.....and Arminians would say that his death is not enough...'cause he died for everyone....and that its our believing that makes up the gap. How could ANY Christian say that? Perhaps I'm biased because when I was an Arminian I was trusting my 'believing'. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/sigh.gif" alt="" />

It's wrong to say someone believes something they determinedly say they don't. So why should we say that an Arminian believes that its Jesus' death alone that saves when they say that it is not enough to save? Whenever I try and ask someone at my church this they all act as if I am determined to find as many people as possible who are NOT saved. That is not the truth. I just know that whoever doesn't believe is not saved....and I just can't see how one could be an Arminian and believe at the same time. I would be extremely happy to be proved wrong! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/rantoff.gif" alt="" />
Anna