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Young Catholic said: On predestination I feel if you are going to preach it- consider the view of "Those who converted he foreknew" Consider that Jesus also said to the "Lord, Lord" folks, "I never knew ye," and you'll see that the foreknowledge of God is not merely "looking forward through the halls of history" -- it is about the love and favor of God, on which see Pink, The Foreknowledge of God. After all, God is omniscient and I think it is somewhat of a stretch to believe that God chooses those of us who will become saved- that seems to go against his gift (and curse) of free will. As Jesus said, "You do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God." Paul writes in Rom. 9:10-18: And not only this, but there was Rebekah also, when she had conceived twins by one man, our father Isaac; for though the twins were not yet born and had not done anything good or bad, so that God's purpose according to His choice would stand, not because of works but because of Him who calls, it was said to her, "The older will serve the younger." Just as it is written, "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated." What shall we say then? There is no injustice with God, is there? May it never be! For He says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion." So then it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but on God who has mercy. For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "For this very purpose I raised you up, to demonstrate My power in you, and that My Name might be proclaimed throughout the whole earth." So then He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires.
Kyle
I tell you, this man went down to his house justified.
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