John_C, I understand the ideas of Sanctification and glorification and our never being "perfect" on this side, yet I am still looking for a "definition" if you will, that the Bible gives of the idea of perfection. The only thing I have found so far is that the Bible tells us 2 things.. 1: God is perfect and separated from sin. 2: We as humans are not perfect, and we are born into bondage with sin. I guess a more elementary way of asking my question would be this.. Is perfection merely defined as a 100% separation from sin?