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catholicguy said:
Yes, but if there is any chance that Christ was not lying when He said "Upon this rock I will build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it", the question is: Should any reformation take place WITHIN or OUTSIDE the Catholic Church?

The Roman Church expelled the Reformation, so not much chance of doing it within. But when Jesus says that the gates of hell will not prevail against His Church, he's referring to the universal Church of all who believe in Him, not the Roman institution that devilishly appropriates the name "Catholic" for itself alone.

Kyle

I tell you, this man went down to his house justified.