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hisalone said:
Hi again cjones,
The argument shouldn't be about whether I'm saved or not.

I apologize, I meant to say whether you are elected or not. Anyway, the point is, that understanding election isn't crucial for your salvation. I believe that as Pilgrim pointed out, we wouldn't even desire to understand if the Spirit of God weren't working in our hearts, so if we have the desire it is most likely God's Spirit working in us. Scripture says to work out our salvation with fear and trembling Phil. 2:12 and to make our calling and election sure 2 Peter 1:10. We do this by staying in the word, and being in fellowship as the body of Christ, we need both, we can't go it alone. We are dependent on each other to grow as testified many places in scripture 1 Cor. 12, and Eph. 4 for example. The word is the only sure guide we have, so to leave off that is to keep the lights off and stubble in darkness. Many leave off one or the other and because of that they struggle in their Christian faith.

When I married my wife, she didn't understand election, but she was sure of her salvation and was a born again believer. We discussed it and she kept coming up with reasons not to accept it, but then one day God opened her eyes to see the truth. It is all in God's timing. Ask Him to give you understanding. Don't try to reason it out in your own strength, it is a difficult doctrine, but one that is full of blessing. Remember, all these things are Spiritually discerned, if you can't understand it now, do not get hung up on it, in time you will understand, if not here, when we see Him as He is. I don't believe anyone can convince someone of its truth by way of argument, God must reveal it to you. It is good to seek to understand, ask Him to give you understanding and try not to argue against the plain truth of scripture. God is Sovereign.


Hisalone
Matt. 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. KJV