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John_C said:
I am not defining tribulation here. Whatever the people who ascribe to the tribulation views is what I am going with. As Pilgrim pointed out, only premills talk of tribulation as is meant in the various tribulation views. Apparently, posttribulation and historic premillennialism are basically the same.

Personally, I see tribulation for believers occurring from the 1st century to the Second Coming. Though, I can see that this tribulation will be more intense toward the end.

I meant to reply to this but things happened in the mean time.

John by your statement there whether you meant to or not you've defined what you mean by tribulation. Whe I speak to most Christians not of the Reformed view tribulation means what happens to the Jews during the first 3 1/2 years under the Antichrist. They don't associate it with what is currently going on to Christians in foreign lands now. I consider the tribulation as what is happening right now to the church and something that happened in particular to the unbelieving jews that were killed when Titus destroyed the temple. To what happened to the jews I would say that it is the Great Tribulation prophesied by Christ.

Peter

If you believe what you like in the gospels, and reject what you don't like, it is not the gospel you believe, but yourself. Augustine of Hippo