The Highway Forums General Discussion Theology Discussion Forum The begotten God Heresy

I have already clearly submitted that the Son's essence was NOT generated/begotten of the Father since the Father and Son and Spirit are all of the SAME essence (homoousios). Please go back and reread what was written in this regard.

So are you now denying the incarnation of the Lord Jesus Christ? Jesus Christ didn't exist until the Holy Spirit conceived Him in Mary's womb. He was BORN of the virgin Mary in temporal space and time. The God-man Jesus of Nazareth is not eternal... the SON is eternal Who joined Himself with human flesh and BECAME Jesus of Nazareth. This is what John in his gospel is wanting to declare and prove:

John 1:1-3 (ASV) "In the beginning was the Word [Son], and the Word [Son] was with God, and the Word [Son] was God. The same [Son] was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him [Son]; and without him [Son] was not anything made that hath been made... (14) And the Word [Son] became flesh [Jesus of Nazareth], and dwelt among us (and we beheld his [the God-man] glory, glory as of the only begotten [Son] from the Father), full of grace and truth... (18) No man hath seen God [Father] at any time; the only begotten Son [Word], who is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him."

Could the Holy Spirit have put it any clearer?

We see this same truth in prophesy where Isaiah wrote:

Isaiah 9:6 (ASV) "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace."

The "child is born" refers to Jesus the Christ, son of Joseph and Mary who is God incarnate. He was born in time and space history. The "son is given" is referring to the eternal Son of God Who is of the very essence of the Father, who was begotten and not born.

So to summarize for your benefit:

1. The Word, Son of God is eternally generated, the only-begotten of the Father who is of the same essence, i.e., He is very God of very God, the eternal second person of the Trinity.

2. Jesus [the Christ] of Nazareth is the God-man who came into being in His manhood through the Holy Spirit and conception of Mary, wife of Joseph.

The Nicene Creed is hardly the by-product of Greek Mythology since it has nothing in common with it. In fact it contradicts the tenets of that pagan religion. Let's get our history straight, shall we?

In His grace,