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Originally Posted By: Pilgrim
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You have yet to even begin to show how the "Form for the Baptism of Infants" is in accordance with the renunciation of "presumptive regeneration". “The Form for the Administration of Baptism 1. To the Infants of Believers” refuses to own and acknowledge “presumptive regeneration” based on the teaching of the Covenant of Grace that is governed by election and clearly teaches that there are two seeds. Therefore none of your questions about the actual wording used in the “Form” have to disclaim or reject presumptive regeneration. It’s assumed that all children of believers are not The Lord’s children. _____________________________________________________________ IT's A SIGN AND SEAL FOR ONLY THESE WCF Of Effectual Calling X
All those whom God hath predestinated unto life, and those only, he is pleased, in his appointed and accepted time, effectually to call, by his Word and Spirit, out of that state of sin and death, in which they are by nature, to grace and salvation, by Jesus Christ; enlightening their minds spiritually and savingly to understand the things of God, taking away their heart of stone, and giving unto them a heart of flesh; renewing their wills, and, by his almighty power, determining them to that which is good, and effectually drawing them to Jesus Christ: yet so, as they come most freely, being made willing by his grace.
Elect infants, dying in infancy, are regenerated, and saved by Christ, through the Spirit, who worketh when, and where, and how he pleaseth: so also are all other elect persons who are incapable of being outwardly called by the ministry of the Word._______________________________________________________________ The "Reformed Faith” teaches baptism and circumcision are/were both sacraments and are identical, they = regeneration, sanctification, and repentance. _______________________________________________________________ Again the quote below by Rev. Kersten answers you question. How clearly and incontrovertibly does the Form for the Administration of Baptism teach in these words that the sealing in baptism concerns the elect, and not all who are baptized. The elect, and not all of mankind, are included in the Covenant of Grace in Christ, their Head, and in Him are partakers of the benefits of the covenant, which are applied unto them in the time of God's good pleasure. This is assured unto them in baptism. And, since God has His elect among children, as well as among adults, Holy Baptism must be administered also unto them. Rev. G. H. Kersten
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