Johan,

Yes, I would like a copy of the report. grin

No, both cannot be in obedience to Scripture, but these are just proposals so that which ever is chosen it will read "in obedience to Scripture" thus justifying its addition. The first one is so insulting to my intelligence I find it hard to believe (not really evilgrin) that it was proposed. To come right out and to write: "members who otherwise qualify", meaning they recognize that the Scriptures DISQUALIFY women from office... e.g., "(HE must be the HUSBAND of one wife; but if a MAN knoweth not how to rule HIS own house, how shall HE take care of the church of God?; lest being puffed up HE fall into the condemnation of the devil.; Moreover HE must have good testimony from them that are without; lest HE fall into reproach and the snare of the devil." igiveup

The second proposition is also faulty by its omission of the office of Deacon, thus opening wide the door to the ordination of women there as well. Of course, perhaps they already have that office polluted with the admission of women... is that the case? If not, then again, it leaves the door wide open for it to happen.

In His grace,


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