The Highway Forums General Discussion Open Forum Love not the World?

I think an acceptable definition of "worldliness" is anything that is contrary to Scripture, i.e., not in conformity to the revealed will of God. This would be a very general definition to be sure but a firm starting place. So, with that in mind, let's take a look at the list of items and see how they fare:

1. music: the type described is, or at least should be, obviously rejected by Scripture especially so in regard to formal worship. It is sensuous and thus contrary to that which emulates the being and nature of God; aka: God's glory. There are several excellent articles found here: Ecclesiology - The Doctrine of the Church, under the expected headings of "Worship" and "Music".
2. edgy language: No comment necessary is there?
3. gravely improper humour: Ditto for comments as above.
4. preaching in a Jesus teeshirt: This rates at least a 3-fold indictment: 1) A direct violation of the Second Commandment, 2) A direct violation of the Third Commandment, and 3) It is antithetical to the biblical doctrine of worship, aka: Regulative Principle. Additionally, it betrays a very low (if even that) view of God and/or the Church.
5. raised hands: In and of itself, the raising of hands is fine. But knowing what Dr. Masters is objecting to both in his article and from his other writings, e.g., Worship in the Melting Pot, he is referring specifically to the charismatic style of 'worship'.
6. Christian hip-hop and rap lyrics: See #1 and once again a very low, unbiblical doctrine of the Church and worship.
7. replicated lighting and atmosphere: Theatrics nor entertainment is to be part of the worship of God. Fleshly enticements are odious to God and to all who hold to a biblical doctrine of worship. (cf. Feeding Sheep or Amusing Goats?)

I think he was clear in what he considered "worldly": "you find them unashamedly naming the leading groups, tracks and entertainment of debased culture." Does the music or film promote, glorify, condone, gloss over, etc., sinful behavior? That is one way to discern what is worldly and what isn't. I like the old saying too, "You don't have to jump into the sewer to know that it stinks!"

I too have enjoyed many of MacArthur's sermons and books. However, it seems that he has been more than supportive of these current "New Calvinism" movements. Surely he is privy to what "Resolve" is doing, eh? And if he is and opposed to it then why hasn't he distanced himself from it and/or removed those who are part of his organization? To be honest, I was very surprised to see MacArthur's name included. But Dr. Master's is not known for making such accusations without due cause.

I'll simply refer you again to the articles here: Ecclesiology - The Doctrine of the Church. There are many excellent articles that deal with the issues of biblical worship, worship 'style', music, etc.

Hope your head stops spinning , which I believe it will in due course once to start to understand the chasm that divides the historic Reformed Church with its doctrines and all other forms of professed Christianity.

Hang in there..... it might take a little time.

In His grace,