The Highway Forums General Discussion Theology Discussion Forum First Rain

1. In Gen 1:6,7,9 we are told of the distribution of water; water on the earth, oceans, seas, etc., and water above the earth in the atmosphere, i.e., CLOUDS.

2. In Gen 2:5,6 we are told that there was no plant life because there was no rain:

Note that there was a mist but that was not sufficient to sustain plants, trees, etc. And, there was no plant life of any kind because there was no man to till the ground. The creation account is of the ENTIRE earth and not just a tiny portion of earth where God established a garden.

3. The creation account informs us of many fundamental things, e.g., order, natural law (aka: nature), i.e., the way in which the universe, including the earth was to function which is upheld by God's providence. A river supplied water for the Garden of Eden, but that does not necessitate that the rest of the world was supplied water via that river. The clouds formed on the second day were to be the "normal/natural" method for watering the earth in order to sustain all plant life.
"Things not yet seen" is not required to, but could refer to, rain.

Methinks it is more than a stretch to interpret "things not yet seen" as being no knowledge of rain. The natural reading of the text would rather mean the catastrophic events that were about to take place.

It is most telling to you because you are starting with the presupposition that it had not rained before the flood. Evolutionists (no reference whatsoever to you ) claim that their theory is true, it is most telling, because there is no way that anything could have occurred without an extended period of time, etc., based upon their presupposition there is no God. By dismissing God, they are left with their own conjectures of how things came to be. Again, the creation account describes not only the small plot of land in Eden, but the entire world. During the 1000 +/- years between Adam and Noah, surely there were 1000s of humans living on the earth beyond Eden. And many of them were farmers as was Adam, who tilled the ground and depended upon rain for their crops to grow, never mind the vast variety of trees and plant life existing on the entire planet that needed water for the "mist" was removed as soon as the waters in the firmament, i.e., clouds were established and man was created who would till the ground.

You quote Gen 9:2,3 to prove your premise that the nature of animals changed after the flood. I'm confused? The whole creation changed after the FALL, not the flood.

Now, my curiosity needs to be pacified if you could do that for me, please... by explaining why it is so important to you that no rain occurred before the flood for over 1000 years AND the ramifications of this view. Also, one other small matter needs satisfying... are there any groups or individuals that you know of who hold to this view? As I originally stated in my first response, I have never heard of this proposition before nor have I ever read anything that posits this view.