The Highway Forums General Discussion Theology Discussion Forum debate on Mary's Virginity

I don't mean to be rude, and I don't profess to understand the whole issue being discussed here, but as for Mary's virginity, it would seem to be for the most part a non issue, and really a lousy place to build a doctrine about Mary since the Bible is very clear that Jesus was born of a Virgin and that yes indeed Mary got married to Joseph. Surely as a married couple they had sex.<br> A lot of people don't really pick up on it though that Mary not only had Jesus, but she also had 4 other sons and at least 2 other daughters which survived at least into the time of Jesus's ministry. We can see them mentioned in Matthew 13:55-56, Mark 6:3, and to a lesser extent in Matthew 12:46 and Mark 15:40. This doesn't compromise that she was a virgin when she had Jesus b/c the Bible clearly states that she became pregnant with Him a few months before her marriage to Joseph. Jesus was the first born, if you look at his life that becomes obvious. That He had other brothers and sisters is quite clear, even in the traditions about Jesus's disciples after He ascended into Heaven. If Jesus had been the only child of Mary and Joseph they would have looked rather wierd in their time, it's so much more logical that Mary had other kids, just after she had Jesus.<br><br><br>--------------------------------------- Read below at your own risk.--------------------------------------------------------------<br>Just to rant for a moment though, why is it that people have such a hard time believing that a virgin can get pregnant? I've known more than one girl who have their physical virginity but who've gotten pregnant, and if a young man can get a girl pregnant without penetration (which is still sex in any good definition of sex), then surely it is within the power of God who created all things to work a miracle as He said He would and He said He did to make a virgin pregnant. The fact that Mary had Jesus doesn't make her some super holy saint to be prayed too, it just means God sovereignly and wisely chose to use this particular girl to bring into the world the Messiah who had to experience life from birth to death. Read Hebrews 2:18 and 7:25 and meditate on that for awhile. <br>The only way I can see that someone can believe in Mary actually birthing God (The Almighty) is if they believe that that same God and Mary whom they pray to are incestouss sinners, and hey, Adam and Eve's kids and Abraham and Sarah and Lot and his daughters may have committed that, but I think that's a little bit below God. Such a view makes a man to worship a degenerate, the blind following the blind straight into a pit of falacy and sin.<br><br>In short, Mary birthed Jesus, being the mother of his physical body, she went on to live a fairly normal life and she died. Jesus is at the right hand of the Father and He is the one we pray to and who makes intercession for us, forget praying to Marry, forget praying to a saint, forget praying to a Pope, forget praying to a priest, it doesn't work.<br><br>Zealous for the Truth,<br>-Brother Luke