The Highway Forums General Discussion Theology Discussion Forum Indwelling of the Holy Spirit in the Old Testament

Hi glew,

Welcome to the Highway Discussion Board. I hope you will enjoy your time here and find it to be profitable. Just to note:

Armenian: noun
1 a native of Armenia or a person of Armenian descent.
2 the Indo-European language of Armenia, spoken by around 4 million people and written in a distinctive alphabet of thirty-eight letters.

Armenia—Located between the Black and Caspian Seas—bordered on the north and east by Georgia and Azerbaijan, and on the south and west by Iran and Turkey.

chestnutmare,
See your point, thanks so much. Now I know for sure that I will be enjoying the stay here. While we are on the subject of semantics maybe you could help with another one of my problems?

When the Lord gave the law to Moses the two of them put it in writing. So when the children of Israel caught a guy “working” on the Sabbath why did Moses have to ask the Lord what to do?

Hello glew,

Would you provide the Scriptural reference that you want me to consider so I can consider how to best answer you?

1. Welcome to The Highway Discussion Board.

2. The difference between "Armenian" and "Arminian" is decidedly not a matter of semantics. The former is defined as Chestnutmare graciously provided in her reply. The latter refers to one who in essence holds to the doctrines as espoused by the followers of Jacobus Arminius in their Remonstrance issued at the great Synod of Dordrecht in 1618. (see HERE)

3. I too would like to see the biblical passage(s) you are referring to in regard to Moses asking God for guidance on how to deal with Sabbath breakers. In the meanwhile, I would like to answer your question with another question. When you read the Fourth Commandment (Ex 20:8-11; Deut 5:12-15), do you find anything there that would give any indication as to what consequences would come about if one did not obey it? In fact, when looking at any/all of the Ten Commandments, do you find what consequences would befall those who transgress any/all of them?

In His grace,

Wow,
A new guy makes a one letter obvious misspelling, (how in the world can anyone seriously think that a nationality was in play over theology) and it feels like the stones are getting ready to come out. (Think that am indeed in deep clover.) Really afraid to go further as not sure why so touchy.?. Cannot believe that you guys don’t know where the law was given, it was recorded, the first Sabbath violation stoning took place etc, etc. Hint, somewhere in the Old Testament. Hint, hint, somewhere in the Pentateuch, (hope that this last word is spelled correctly or who knows, maybe I will wake up with frogs in my bed).

Now, now... there is no need to get your knickers in a knot. You obviously have taken our responses in a wrong manner, and that is unfortunate. Let me try and explain somethings to you:

1. We have a wide range of members here who, a) are from various theological backgrounds, [historic Calvinists, Arminians, semi-Pelagians, Roman Catholics, Atheists, sectarians and even occasionally cultists] b) some are biblically illiterate, some are theologically ignorant or untrained, and c) some are even unregenerate. Thus, we cannot take it for granted what a person knows and/or believes. Would you believe that you are definitely not the first to use the word "Armenian" here? And many were of the understanding that this is how "Arminian" was spelled. They were also corrected in the same friendly manner. Most took the correction gracefully and thanked us for it.

2. Perhaps you aren't aware that at Nicea, when the doctrine of the Trinity was upheld against the attacks of Arius and others, that much debate centered around one single letter. Some wanted to use the word homoiousios which means "of like substance" instead of the word homoousios, which means "one substance". But the former was rejected strongly because it denied the place and nature of the Son [Christ] within the Trinity. The latter affirms that God the Son and God the Father are of the same substance or essence. So lending oneself to exactness can be a good thing.

3. Since you are the "new guy" here, it is not overly helpful to get sarcastic in your responses to those whose desire is to HELP you where needed. Trust me, we are very familiar with "where the law was given". What we would like to know is the exact passage which apparently is giving you some trouble in understanding what was written therein. So again, if you would please provide the specific passage which is troubling you perhaps we can be more specific in our answer(s). I have already given you a "hint" toward that understanding with my own question to you. Did that not put some light on the issue for you?

Okay, let's try and begin again and hopefully you will not be so quick to take offense, especially due to misconceptions about some of us here.

In His grace,

Thanks Glew,
Yes, I agree, the other side of the same coin is legalism which we must guard against. I am glad you found the Highway. Welcome

Wow wow,
Such a list of things that are wrong with me gathered in so few postings, (how many now 3 or 4 shorties). Let’s see-
1 Can’t spell
2 Misunderstand others too quickly
3 Probably unlearned
4 Sarcastic
5 Non-specific
6 Inattentive to prior postings
7 Unappreciative to gracious hospitality
8 Unaware of my surroundings
9 Untrusting
10 In need of a lot of help
11 Quick to take offense
Here is one you did not list
12 Unwilling to start again