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Some may have heard about Rev. Carl Gallups, who prayed at a Donald Trump rally.
Someone who is a Trump supporter sent me a link to that prayer, saying it is another good reason to support Trump.
Before this I had never even heard about Carl Gallups, so I did a little digging.
I found one link that I am trying to find out how legit it is. If anyone can shed some light on it, I would appreciate it.

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/polit...lly-sandy-hook-truther-article-1.2557311

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I found one link that I am trying to find out how legit it is. If anyone can shed some light on it, I would appreciate it.
What exactly are you wanting some "light" to be shone on?

I've read some similar claims about the Sandy Hook massacre from other sources but never gave them much thought; just cast them off as typical conspiracy rantings.


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Sandy Hook raises so many question marks that I am forced to question the whole narrative..... I'm convinced that an nwo-style demonic global deception is at play. Is Gallups legit? I think his heart is in the right place, as far as his soul is concerned I cannot tell, nor should I try.....

http://sandyhookjusticereport.com

http://www.activistpost.com/2015/12/33-unanswered-questions-on-sandy-hooks-3rd-anniversary.html

http://deepinsidetherabbithole.com/sandy-hook-i/

http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/0...eveals-resigned-position-made-feel-sick/

Added one more for good measure, check out the political connectedness http://www.thesleuthjournal.com/sandy-hook-actors-elite-political-connections-videos/

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Here's a real quick and easy assessment from a learned source
http://thewashingtonstandard.com/sa...hat-it-was-a-drill-and-no-children-died/

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Okay, okay... so the conspiratists believe that the reported massacre at Sandy Hook school was fiction. No one was shot, injured or killed. And, that according to the "The Washington Standard" the whole event was "a drill". It was planned and orchestrated by the Obama Administration for the main purpose of solidifying their anti-Second Amendment agenda. I think that is what all these articles are saying or at least implying.

Were there any funerals conducted for the alleged killed students? Were there any actual graves dug and caskets buried? Are there records available from the coroner's office that show anyone was actually shot and killed? Are there public documents that would support that the children that were allegedly killed were really buried? Where are the newspaper articles that reported that the filmed events were actually a practice drill, etc., or is there not one single newspaper that is privy to this alleged "drill"?

We have relatives in Connecticut who live about an hour from Newtown, CT and who have never heard one word that the Sandy Hook massacre was a drill.

Bottom line... it is possible that someone conducted a "drill" at that school, but it is more than improbable that the public was never informed after the fact and was led to believe that a mass shooting took place and children were killed. igiveup


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You beet me to it and I might add better than I could.
One other thing that I thought about that seems odd. Why have we not heard from any of the children's parents if it was just a drilll?
At this point, If I believed it was just a drill, I might as well believe that 9/11 was not a terrorist attack.
By the way the main reason I brought this matter up, is I was wondering what kind of people Trump was serounding himself with.
It seems that many evangelicals are impressed with Trump getting Gallups to pray.
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Based on your angle, I respectfully don't think you fully get it.... Which is fine, what's been going down is pretty darn unbelievable and requires a complicit media and massive corruption.... But gov. does have ability to control the guilty and shut down inquiry.... If the powers that be want America to follow a certain path they can make it happen any way or any how..... Don't be quick to believe mainstream media that will paint others as nutty conspiracy theorists.... Be willing to hear their arguments and know human depravity has no bounds.... And vote trump.....

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05/01/sandy-hook-hoax-how-we-know-it-didnt-happen/

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The 'parents' are in on it, the school has been closed for years, not sure if some of those kids even exist.... Or if the shooter even existed . Crisis actors, computer generated composites and government controlled and corrupted local entities...... That whole area was controlled...... If you ever see the movie eyes wide shut you will catch a glimpse into the global elite and it's pretty satanic..... It just strengthens my faith in a righteous God who will shut down all the evil and deception

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Originally Posted by Tom
By the way the main reason I brought this matter up, is I was wondering what kind of people Trump was serounding himself with.
I wouldn't say that Trump surrounded himself with Gallup or such individuals. They are just individuals who happen to want Trump vs. Hillary to win and support him. The people who Trump will surround himself with are those who he chooses to be part of his cabinet, etc., should he win.


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I will say one more thing then I will put this thing to bed, Bush Sr. was head of the CIA and is part of the CFR (council on foreign relations) as well as Obama and many other high ranking gov officials now and then..... both parties have special global interests at heart. We are seeing our privacy, our health policy choices, our gun rights and even our freedom of religion go out the window and global powers are behind all of these developments... often contrived and/or manipulated to push an agenda that violates our freedoms somehow.. But in the end, these developments would jive with where the bible says we are headed. http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/09/06/sandy-hook-ten-proofs-vitiate-official-account/

So maybe I am gullible but nothing would surprise me anymore.... It's not worth dwelling on

"Rear Admiral Chester Ward--himself a CFR member until he realized what it was all about and withdrew--said about the CFR. Remember, Admiral Ward was the Judge Advocate General of the Navy from 1956-1960.

Admiral Ward said, “The most powerful clique in these elitist groups [such as the CFR, Trilateral Commission, et al] have one objective in common--they want to bring about the surrender of the sovereignty and the national independence of the United States. A second clique of international members in the CFR . . . comprises the Wall Street international bankers and their key agents. Primarily, they want the world banking monopoly from whatever power ends up in the control of global government.”

He also said, “The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all-powerful, one world government.”

Admiral Ward was exactly right. Even a cursory look at the names of the most prominent politicians, media personalities, and leaders of the Federal Reserve shows a preponderance of influence by the CFR. For example, here is a small listing of some of the most influential members of the CFR or Trilateral Commission (or sometimes both):

George Herbert Walker Bush. Bill Clinton. Sandra Day O’Connor. Dick Cheney. Les Aspin. Colin Powell. Robert Gates. Brent Scowcroft. Jesse Jackson, Sr. Mario Cuomo. Dan Rather. Tom Brokaw. David Brinkley. John Chancellor. Marvin Kalb. Diane Sawyer. Barbara Walters. Cyrus Vance. Paul Volcker. Henry Kissinger. George Schultz. Alan Greenspan. Madeleine Albright. Roger Altman. Bruce Babbitt. Howard Baker. Samuel Berger. Elaine Chao. Dianne Feinstein. Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Chuck Hagel. Gary Hart. John McCain. George Mitchell. Bill Moyers. Jay Rockefeller. Donna Shalala. Strobe Talbott. Fred Thompson. Robert Zoellick. Richard Nixon. Hubert H. Humphrey. George McGovern. Gerald Ford. Jimmy Carter. John Anderson. Walter Mondale. Michael Dukakis. Al Gore. John Kerry."

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Originally Posted by Pilgrim
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By the way the main reason I brought this matter up, is I was wondering what kind of people Trump was serounding himself with.
I wouldn't say that Trump surrounded himself with Gallup or such individuals. They are just individuals who happen to want Trump vs. Hillary to win and support him. The people who Trump will surround himself with are those who he chooses to be part of his cabinet, etc., should he win.

I agree with you, however I know people who are watching this aspect and for good or bad Gallups' praying has given them another reason to support Trump.
If I may use an analogy, from something I am presently dealing with some Christian friends of mine with.
My friend has decided to take some more courses from Alpha. Out of concern for my friend and his wife, I told him my concerns; using a few articles about Nicky Gumbel who is responsible for Alpha.
Rather than read the material I sent him (which I am hoping and praying he will reconsider), he told me that he took Alpha years ago and found it inspiring and it produces a lot of fruit in people’s lives. I doubt at this point he even cares about Nicky Gumbel.

This thread is not about Alpha, but the reason I bring this up, is people look at what they perceive as good fruit, rather than look directly at the beliefs and practices of who says them.
In this case, the fact Trump had a minister pray, impressed many people. How many of these people know or even care about what Gallups' believes?
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Originally Posted by AJ Castellitto
The 'parents' are in on it, the school has been closed for years, not sure if some of those kids even exist.... Or if the shooter even existed . Crisis actors, computer generated composites and government controlled and corrupted local entities...... That whole area was controlled...... If you ever see the movie eyes wide shut you will catch a glimpse into the global elite and it's pretty satanic..... It just strengthens my faith in a righteous God who will shut down all the evil and deception

Sorry, I find this harder to believe than if the event actually occurred. Parents in on it? I could see a few parents buying into this; but no way I could see that many parents buying into it.

The school closed for years? If true, why have not the locals said anything about this. Pilgrim said he knows people from that area and they don't know about this.
If it is a conspiracy, it could be bigger than Water Gate and you know how that ended.

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Originally Posted by Tom
Originally Posted by AJ Castellitto
The 'parents' are in on it, the school has been closed for years, not sure if some of those kids even exist.... Or if the shooter even existed . Crisis actors, computer generated composites and government controlled and corrupted local entities...... That whole area was controlled...... If you ever see the movie eyes wide shut you will catch a glimpse into the global elite and it's pretty satanic..... It just strengthens my faith in a righteous God who will shut down all the evil and deception

Sorry, I find this harder to believe than if the event actually occurred. Parents in on it? I could see a few parents buying into this; but no way I could see that many parents buying into it.

The school closed for years? If true, why have not the locals said anything about this. Pilgrim said he knows people from that area and they don't know about this.
If it is a conspiracy, it could be bigger than Water Gate and you know how that ended.

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I find it hard to believe myself.... but I find many things hard to believe including Obama's legitimacy and yet the serious inquiries remain unacknowledged.... so, whatever.....

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Okay, let's use a presuppositional apologetic to analyze this whole premise. grin

1. It is alleged that the school was abandoned 5 years before the incident. If that were true, then EVERYONE in that city and surrounding cities and towns who were familiar with Sandy Hook Elementary School would have immediately known something was very wrong when the videos and photos were broadcast throughout the nation and newspapers reported the story. They would have seen the old abandoned building knowing it was not Sandy Hook Elementary School

No one, not even Obama or the FBI or the CIA could possibly know who was privy to the fact that the building shown in the videos and photos was not the actual school and then to buy off 1000s of people to keep quiet. igiveup

2. It would be a no brainer to prove if that building was abandoned as a school 5 years +/- prior to the massacre. School Board records, meeting minutes, town hall meetings, etc., would surely be available that show all the discussions, debates, etc., that definitely would have taken place to relocate the school or perhaps even build a new one. If an existing structure was to be used, then it would have had to be inspected to make sure it was up to code, etc. Remember, most of those people are Democrats and thrive on making regulations, require permits, etc., etc. giggle In short, it would be simple to prove that the building where this shooting took place was not Sandy Hook School. But if no such records exist, then one must conclude that the location were this event occurred was in fact the real Sandy Hook School and children and adults were in fact shot and killed.

The proposed "hoax" is so far-fetched that it is incredulous. Investigations like trouble-shooting always begins with the most reasonable and obvious and probable and then moves to the most unlikely and improbable. The so-called evidence allegedly set forth by the proponents of the hoax theory/conspiracy is all circumstantial at best and much of it is clearly imaginary.

What IS incontrovertibly true is that Obama and all the anti-Second Amendment leftists take every and any opportunity to use such tragedies to further their agenda to strip Americans of their right to bear arms and to usher in their "new world" socialism, aka: communism without the fear of a civil war.


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Originally Posted by AJ Castellitto
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The 'parents' are in on it, the school has been closed for years, not sure if some of those kids even exist.... Or if the shooter even existed . Crisis actors, computer generated composites and government controlled and corrupted local entities...... That whole area was controlled...... If you ever see the movie eyes wide shut you will catch a glimpse into the global elite and it's pretty satanic..... It just strengthens my faith in a righteous God who will shut down all the evil and deception

Sorry, I find this harder to believe than if the event actually occurred. Parents in on it? I could see a few parents buying into this; but no way I could see that many parents buying into it.

The school closed for years? If true, why have not the locals said anything about this. Pilgrim said he knows people from that area and they don't know about this.
If it is a conspiracy, it could be bigger than Water Gate and you know how that ended.

Tom

I find it hard to believe myself.... but I find many things hard to believe including Obama's legitimacy and yet the serious inquiries remain unacknowledged.... so, whatever.....
Can't argue with that.
Not that I always trust snopes.com, but I had a look at what they said and they believe it was a very real event. They even examined some of the claims of the conspiracy theorists.
By the way, look at some of the other claims made on the same web site provided and you will see that they are also holocost deniers.

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Yeah, forget the site, just consider these facts
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In less than two months, it will be the one-year anniversary of the Sandy Hook massacre — the shootings on December 14, 2012 by alleged killer Adam Lanza of 20 children and 6 adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut.

And yet we don’t know any more about the killings than we did six months ago.

Why?

Because the authorities are determined to keep the massacre enshrouded in secrecy.

In the United States, death certificates — like birth and marriage certificates — are public domain documents that serve as a mechanism for upholding the integrity of information in which there is a public interest. As an example, death certificates can be and are used to maintain voting integrity by removing dead people from registered voter lists.

But Newtown’s town clerk Debbie Aurelia — with the support of the Connecticut state legislature — refused to release the death records of those killed in Sandy Hook, despite Freedom of Information requests from the New York Post, the Connecticut Post, the Associated Press, the Hartford Courant, and other media. The ostensible reason is to protect the “feelings” of the parents of the child victims.

Of course, what Aurelia and the Connecticut state legislature wouldn’t explain is how and why the “feelings” of the parents would be “hurt” by the release of the death records of alleged mass murderer Adam Lanza and his mother, Nancy Lanza.

Adam Lanza’s death records are especially important because Social Security Death Index initially had his date-of-death (DoD) as December 13, 2012 — one day before Lanza’s alleged shooting rampage. When bloggers discovered this curious fact, SSDI quickly changed Lanza’s DoD to December 14, 2013. See:

“SSDI says Adam Lanza died a day before Sandy Hook massacre,” Jan. 20, 2013.
“Dec. 14 was date of death for every Sandy Hook massacre victim, except Adam Lanza,” Feb. 2, 2013.
“SSDI changed Adam Lanza’s date-of-death from Dec. 13 to Dec. 14, 2012 !!!,” Feb. 2, 2013.
Sandy HookNow the same excuse is given for gagging the workers and contractors who are tearing down the Sandy Hook Elementary School (SHES), allegedly because of asbestos contamination. (The school had been empty since the shooting, its students and faculty were moved to a school building renamed SHES about seven miles away in neighboring town Monroe.)

The Associated Press reports (via Fox News), Oct. 15, 2013, that contractors demolishing Sandy Hook Elementary School are being required to sign confidentiality agreements forbidding public discussion of the site, photographs or disclosure of any information about the building where 26 people were fatally shot last December.

Selectman William Rodgers said officials want to protect the Newtown school where the 20 children and six educators were killed because “It’s a very sensitive topic” and “We want it to be handled in a respectful way,” The News-Times reported. “We don’t really want those who are there somehow releasing information or recounting impressions of the site, given we are trying to move on, so to speak.”

Project manager Consigli Construction has barricaded the property and intends to screen the perimeter to prevent onlookers from taking photographs. Full-time security guards will ensure the site is not disturbed.

Families of the victims and school staff visited the site, but public access is barred.

The precautions exceed those at other construction sites, town officials said.

Jim Juliano, a member of the Public Building and Site Commission, said he believes extra vigilance is needed to shield Sandy Hook families and the community from exploitation, and to prevent the infliction of more pain on the community.

Demolition is set to begin next week and be finished before the Dec. 14 anniversary of the shootings. A new school is expected to open by December 2016. Town voters last month accepted a state grant of $49.3 million to demolish the school and build a new one.
And check out these school board vids



Here's a local gal taking the school board to task....


Here's some good points:

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2. Jim Fetzer said that during his research into Sandy Hook, he discovered that the school had 626 students. Subtracting the 20 who were killed that day, that leaves 606 students in the school. “Where were they on the day of this event?” Assuming a school bus seats 50 students, that means there should have been at least 12 buses. “But we don’t have footage or report of these large number of buses evacuating the students.”

Fetzer then lists some other reasons why “some people are skeptical of this event”:

The final report from the state police does not include the names and ages or sex of any of the victims.
The Newtown clerk entered into secret arrangements with the state legislature to avoid releasing any death certificates.
The state attorney general fought against the release of 911 calls.
Those involved in dismantling the school [after the massacre because of asbestos infestation] were subjected to lifetime gag order.
Fetzer: “All of this suggests that there is something there to hide.” Fetzer asks why and how those 626 students could be allowed to inhabit a school that was a “toxic dump” known to be loaded with asbestos and other biohazards, so infested that it was completely torn down after the shooting.

Snopes? rofl

This Lanza kid was quite a marksman.... No injuries?


Also, Newtown School Boss Can't Recall Sandy Hook At Super Bowl


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Anyway, I'm not say we should be preoccupied, but if we are too lazy as Christian citizens to see through deceptive narratives we deserve everything we get.....

Have you guys ever heard of George Soros? Who do you think funds black lives matter protests? How bout some of the globalist big bank institutions? Who do you think controls the media? Wag the dog...... Anyway, I'm not proving anything..... Just be skeptical.
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Thank you, AJ.

Socialism is the secular analog of Pelagianism.
Liberals who play fast and loose with the Constitution are the secular analog of Christian Liberals who treat the Bible likewise.

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Came across more gun legislation related to recent Sandy Hook anniversary and Alex Jones libel suit. Brought me to some interesting comments on the event: https://www.reformation.org/NobodyDiedAtSandyHook.pdf
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"one video nicknamed Sandy Hook as CIA hook because all the family members are like ghosts, nothing found on them or have weird ties. …
People tried looking at the towns history and ancestry using ancestry to establish reasonable doubt, a lot of events were nonsense because if you can show families are related to powerful rich people then clearly something strange is going on."
"documentary on the nuclear city …they basically made a secret city with fake citizens to cover up nuclear explosion tests… if they can do that they can have a whole city of citizens in the know. There's a rumor that Sandy Hook is nick named CIA hook because all the popular families there have sketchy ties to the military industrial complex which unironically is known for funded psychological warfare operations on US citizens. This was discussed on various memory holed videos if you do some digging. Trust me the "you need a bunch of people to be fooled for so and so conspiracy to work" is the most common false premise and it's been debunked and countered countless times. You do not always need multiple people in the know and even if they did they have successful ways of going about it.”

My wife went to high school with one of the “victim’s” fathers. The gentleman’s family is super wealthy and connected (in media & politics). The Masonic shadow government (and their disciples) are awaiting their widespread takeover of society and doing what they will to make it happen. Interesting to see events attempt to align in these directions…

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Okay, I'm confused??? scratchchin Are you suggesting that the Sandy Hook shooting(s) didn't actually happen, i.e., no one was actually killed? Or, that the shooting(s) were in fact real, and children were real but their deaths were orchestrated by the families themselves or some clandestine group of affluent people? Or, if not either of these scenarios, what then?

Thanks for some clarification.

IMO, Alex Jones made a huge and erroneous decision in his conclusion re: Sandy Hook. HOWEVER, the judgment against him was way out of proportion, unconscionable even and without justification.


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Hey Pilgrim

1. I regret that I even revisited this topic, but I only have one social media source that I use (instagram - mainly just for sharing family pics) and unfortunately a Sandy hook’s “victim’s” father call for gun control popping up on my feed “triggered” me back down this rabbit hole.

So let me put some things out there as far as my understanding.

1. I was not born a conspiracy theorist. I was “seduced” by various comment sections. I bought the 9/11 & Sandy Hook narratives without question. But why would I have any reason to even scratch the surface when I never thought the lies would run this deep.

2. The biggest defense (for these official narratives), at the end of the day, is the argument from authority fallacy. If you are willing to side step that and watch or read some investigative analysis than much of these house of cards will and do fall.

3. Sandy Hook is a unique “hoax,” as opposed to the false flag varities which seem apparent in crisis scenarios like the Vegas shooting where people actually died and obviously 9/11 where people died for greed and an agenda - it was heartbreaking & sick.

4. I’m no authority on these matters, so I will never claim to have all the answers. But after years of trying to figure out the level of cognitive dissonance from not only mainstream media outlets and deep state politicians but even from conservative figures (and especially intelligence agencies) is that the majority that have a platform represent various levels of “in the know.” At the most, you’ll get a half truth. So that cancels out Trump, DeSantis, Bush, Tucker Carlson, Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, etc., (even guys like Allen West & Steve Bannon, etc.) They serve the overall agenda, no matter how conservative they claim to be. This is highly sobering, but a shadow government controlling the 2 major parties and our news media w/ deep secret society & Masonic allegiances/foundations from early in our nation’s inception carries a great deal of clout and cultural influence. They create and stage the news and narratives as needed. They control the intelligence agencies. And even popular actors have at least one foot in these circles (e.g. are Freemasons, politically connected and aligned - Oprah comes to mind) and serve the Marxist takeover of not just America but (also with sights on) the world. It’s a whole enslavement system. You either serve and worship God or something else. We know this. Neopagan tax dollars at work. Most of them don’t need to be pressured to sell out and sign up, they are merely placed in positions of power & influence. They play their parts as not to disrupt everyone’s reality.

5. Sandy Hook. Just bullet points, I would recommend watching a documentary on youtube alternates or read the book I linked for the whole picture. https://www.reformation.org/NobodyDiedAtSandyHook.pdf *
a. A drill was planned/conducted and the powers that be decided they would run with it and pretend it was an actual event.
b. There was no operational school or kids that attended. The pics are actual kids whose images were from a few years earlier. The parents are real people and I guess the real parents who are either crisis actors or highly connected. The guy who was a senior at my wife’s regional public high school when she was a junior was one of these parents. His name is Matt Hubbard. She doesn’t really know him and said he was pretty closed off from what she recalls.
c. The rest of the story is a CIA psych-op. Adam Lanza, the 110’pound autistic marksman is quite possibly a complete fabrication. His so-called brother was a real person. It looks like a few images were merged together to makeup the creepy killer. But he may be a real person, it doesn’t matter because the whole event is a scripted collaboration between intelligence and lock-step media (the whole event location/area was isolated and the major players who were propped up were controlled. The whole locale is highly corrupted, but in particular, the site of the “tragic event” was completely isolated). CNN is probably CIA controlled and all the other outlets just follow their lead.


Alex Jones is also probably something called “controlled opposition” used to change the standard of normalcy and shut down basic inquiry.

This is why I don’t follow any widespread news or politics anymore. It’s all Kabuki theater….. Half truths, reality shifting, agenda shaping, propaganda.


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A 425-page compilation of the purported shooting incident at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, alleged to have taken place on 14 December 2012, by 13 contributors including six current or retired Ph.D. college professors, who have established through their research that the school had been abandoned by 2008.

The research shows that the school was used to conduct an elaborate drill, and that no children in fact were present and therefore no children died. The drill was done to promote the gun control agenda of then-attorney general Eric Holder and the president of the United States Barack Obama.

The book is copiously documented with photographs, records, and other proofs that make it so detailed, so thorough, and so compelling, that the U.S. government has had to resort to extreme measures to suppress it, including having it banned by Amazon.com.

Proof it was a drill was right before our eyes, the sign, "Everyone must check in!,” boxes of bottled water and pizza cartons, Port-a-potties present from scratch, many wearing name tags on lanyards, parents bringing children to the scene.

Proof it wasn't a massacre was also there was no surge of EMTs into the building, no Med-Evac helicopter was called, no string of ambulances to the school, no evacuation of 469 other students, no bodies placed on the triage tarps.

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Think about how far back presidential candidates were accusing each other of being Freemasons, etc. I know that’s politics, but it’s probably based in a whole lot of reality. …. This stuff ain’t new. We just aren’t used to taking a big picture perspective on these matters. Why? How hard is it to control a few major industries or even countries e.g. w/ banking & currency (the fed reserve)? Ask the Rothchilds…..


Conspiracy Theories Abounded in 19th-Century American Politics
Rumors of secret alliances, bank deals, and double-crossings were rampant in early American elections
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/hist...9th-century-american-politics-180971940/

Bunch of pawns ultimately take the heat and the fall but the fire behind it all still burns…. How
far are they willing to go? Who’s their daddy? A foundation built on lies. Personally, Im over it.

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“ Jackson won—and conspiratorial rhetoric remained ever-present throughout his presidency. In the run-up to the 1832 election, the national organization of Freemasonry drew conspiracy theorists’ attention. Spurred on by the murder of a New York Mason named William Morgan, who had threatened to disclose the fraternal order’s secrets, an Anti-Masonic political party had emerged during the 1828 election. Frequently repeated accusations that Freemasonry was secretive and elitist reflected larger concerns about the ways in which the ruling elite undermined the nation’s democratic institutions through corruption. And for the Anti-Masons, Jackson was no better than Adams; in their view, the Tennessean’s promise of “rotation of office” was simply cronyism.

Four years later, the Anti-Masons had gained enough supporters to run William Wirt for president against the Democratic incumbent Jackson and the National Republican candidate Henry Clay. During the 1832 campaign, they accused Freemasons of a number of transgressions beyond Morgan’s murder, including subversion of free speech and democracy. Rhode Island Anti-Masons, for example, warned that Freemasons were “darkening the public mind” by attempting to quash public criticism of their organization in the state’s newspapers. Vermont’s William Strong charged the Democrats with following the Masonic dogma of “the end justifies the means” to elect Jackson in 1828 and secure government patronage for party members.”

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/hist...9th-century-american-politics-180971940/

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So, at the risk of being far too simplistic or woefully without proper comprehension of your position, which at my age is possible of course giggle, your conclusion is that there was no mass shooting. No one was shot or killed. All the funeral videos, police activity, ambulances loading alleged wounded victims was totally fabricated, a staged event such as would be done on a movie set… correct? All the alleged parents of those alleged killed were paid conspirators which to this day remain faithful to the fabricated narrative… correct? In short, Alex Jones’ reports are 100% correct or nearly correct and no mass shooting; not even one real shot fired was real… correct? Set me straight on this if you please. grin thanks!


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Yes, but the way you are phrasing it makes me feel kinda silly….

The fake funerals were all closed caskets….

your conclusion is that there was no mass shooting. No one was shot or killed. Yep
All the funeral videos, never saw em, but according to reports they were all closed caskets
police activity, ambulances loading alleged wounded victims was totally fabricated, never saw any ambulance loading, did you?
a staged event such as would be done on a movie set… correct? Kinda, I guess, but not everyone is in the same level of in the know… so it’s a shoddy production for CNN to clean up
All the alleged parents of those alleged killed were paid conspirators which to this day remain faithful to the fabricated narrative… correct? Pretty much, they became rich anti gun activists practically overnight. Some of these types are involved in illegal activity and have no choice while others were always true believers in the agenda

In short, Alex Jones’ reports are 100% correct or nearly correct and no mass shooting; not even one real shot fired was real… correct? Set me straight on this if you please. grin thanks! Yes, normal people poke holes in the narratives so wacky Alex Jones has to come our and shoot their credibility. He’s probably a paid shill.

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“I have a lot of sources in regards to as to what’s going on with the president and the administration and so on, and every one of my sources said it was a false flag”--Paul Preston

Sofia Smallstorm, who produced and directed the documentary,“Unraveling Sandy Hook”, which many regard as the best video study of the Sandy Hook event, recently interviewed a Los Angeles school expert, Paul Preston, about Sandy Hook and his knowledge of what had transpired.

Governor Malloy had held a press conference that day, explaining that he and the Lt. Governor had been “spoken to” that something like this might happen, which raised the question, what “something like this”? Did he mean he had been told a school shooting massacre would take place? or a drill that would be presented as a real event?

Remarkably, we now have confirmation from an unexpected source. Paul Preston had obtained information from officials in the U.S. Department of Education of the Barack Obama administration, who confirmed to him on the basis of their own personal knowledge that:

(1) it had been a drill;

(2) no children had been killed; and,

(3) it had been done to promote an anti-gun agenda.

Given his background of 41 years in the California public school system (from custodian to district superintendent) and having served as a teacher, coach, vice-principal and principal before retiring in 2012 as the superintendent of two charter schools, I thought what he had to say about Sandy Hook deserved widespread dissemination.

So when he did a two-hour show on Revolution Radio, “False Flags (9/11, Sandy Hook and the Boston bombing)” on 30 May 2014, as the third segment, I included the second 30-minutes of Sofia’s interview with Paul Preston, which is archived on “The Real Deal” and can be heard here.

Because Preston is also highly trained in school safety issues and had himself organized drills of many kinds, including active-shooter drills, what he has to say is especially telling. He has a website of his own at www.Agenda21Radio.com, which he created to alert listeners to the perils of Agenda 21.


Transcript of 30-minute clip of Sofia Smallstorm interviewing Paul Preston


S = Sofia Smallstrom

P = Paul Preston

S – This is Sofia Smallstorm and we’re listening to a very interesting discussion – Paul Preston, school principal, school safety consultant, teacher, coach, and superintendent. He has been in the California system for 41 years. He is now retired.

So Paul, let’s continue. Can we get a little bit into Sandy Hook now and what set off your antenna about it?

P – Well, you know I’ve been involved in many many situations at schools that have been, you know, emergency type situations and was involved even to some degree with the Columbine situation in that we had an individual who as trying to blow up the school, our school, at the time. In a similar fashion to what was a predicted bomb threat that occurred at Columbine thee days before the Columbine shooting, and that’s how we kind of got in touch with the Columbine people. They got in touch with us because it turned out to be a similar neo-Nazi group that was related to the Trench Coat Mafia, of all people.

And so learning and watching ad seeing all these incidences play out, all these school shootings, I took an enormous interest in because we were doing a study trying to determine because the neo-Nazis we had been working with in our school along the same time of the Columbine incident were telling us that there was going to be some big event take place. And so our staff, myself, we all wanted to sit down and figure where this was all going to and we studied a lot of the Nazi websites and so on, and we figured out that yes, something big was going to happen.

Well then Columbine happened. So we watched with a lot of intensity and under with my own circumstances and also with watching the videos and replays of the other active shooter situations, I became sort of a specialist in that and applied it to my own active-shooter training that I was doing and conducting with my own people.

S – Right. And now can we get in to Sandy Hook?

P – Well yes. Of all the hundreds of hours that I spent watching these scenarios and investigating and reporting on them on my radio show, the first thing I noticed when I heard about Sandy Hook when I turned on the TV like everybody else …now I have always told everybody when you’re seeing these things play out in real time, the best news reporting is what’s happening in real time – that day of, you know, the moments that are around the incident. But document for yourself what’s going on because you’ll never see it again.

And the first thing that caught my eye as I was watching everything play out was the lack of intensity with which people were moving and that really disturbed me. It hit me within the first few minutes, watching the video, the helicopters flying around and so on. Things just didn’t seem to be right, like I would always understand in an incident command system. People weren’t rushing around. People weren’t panicking. They ran that one guy off into the woods and then they arrested him. They took him away and there was no connectedness to that.

I was also wondering why all the emergency equipment wasn’t around the school. And I didn’t see any students either and that really bothered me.

S – So, it was almost like too slow motion for a real event. Not enough panic. Not enough chaos. You had mentioned chaos earlier being a part of these real situations. And a lot of support people rushing around like press and police but not running fast enough, not running with intensity and alarm and panic and concern, I think.

P – None of that was there.

S – Yes. So all right, and then what did you start thinking?

P – Well, just within the first 10 or 15 minutes, it just all looked too staged to me, and I know about staging these things since I’ve staged a number of them. And, like I said, then you stage something there’s a complete lack of intensity as you would have in a real scenario when there’s panic really taking hold of people and they’re really afraid and they’re screaming and yelling and so on.


But the one thing that really bothered me was where were the kids. You know they had how many hundreds of kids there at the school. I didn’t see them.

S – Right.

P – And there was lack of accounting for them.

And right away – and I’ll juxtaposition this with the situation that happened in Pennsylvania. You saw the kids right away. I know it’s a high school, but you know, you saw the kids right away and you saw their plan of evacuation of the school unfolding.

Now this is where it really falls apart with Sandy Hook for me. saw…I saw no evidence of a real plan of student evacuation taking place. And that stuck to my head like crazy when I was in the moments watching this whole thing play out in real time.

S – That’s very interesting. No evidence of a real plan. Because only someone…I mean everybody had their own response to it. Some of us were already clued in from previous kinds of situations. All this has got to be not what they’re telling us it is. But you come from the industry, the business, and you felt that there is… I would say you knew … It probably was not even a feeling. It was like, you know, set in stone in your head. Where’s the plan? I don’t see the plan playing itself out. Right?

P – I saw same of your evacuation centers and I saw some of your colored tarps on the ground, the colored taps and so on, but even that pretty odd because normally if you have the tarps out there…in every active shooter situation you have ever see, there’s somebody on the tarp or there’s been some help that’s been given to somebody when somebody has been wounded, but none of that was even evident. And I don’t see anybody trying to rush to anybody’s help at all in a mass casualty situation.

See, when you don’t see that…I mean…I’ll go back to the example that I have before about the 13 who overdosed. We had people everywhere, and we had people everywhere until everybody was safe, which was 35, 40 minutes, almost an hour. And that was never happening there at Sandy Hook. You didn’t see the mass of people doing that.

S – Yes, it’s more like the press filled in for that missing element. The press sounded more concerned and panicked on TV as they reported but the actual participants were not so …And got, you know, long after the fact we got the supposed 911 calls, we got various people giving their versions of it on television as they got interviewed. But we didn’t see it on the ground. And so how long did you watch it for? Over a period of days, weeks? And what were your thoughts?



P – You know, I make it a study. I study these things intensely, and what really, what really put me over the top was the next morning with Robbie Parker going out there, and I saw that clip as it happened. And I said there’s something really wrong here.

And that’s when I started thinking about the …the actors. You can actually rent these actors out. In fact that put these things up for training all the time.

And I just said ‘this is not…first of all, his demeanor was terrible. I would never go out…and I know sometimes this happens but…to send a parent out to talk to the press in that fashion about the daughter that he just lost. None of that seemed to be appropriate. None of it seemed to fit. And his behavior with the smiling laughing thing and getting into character that you could see. I said ‘ hmmm, I’m not buying this. I’m just not buying it.’

S – Yes, I know. Very few other people did. So, did you contact anyone? Did you speak to anyone? I don’t mean officially but in your own network of friends.

P – Yes.

S – And what were their thoughts.

P – Almost everybody was unanimous that it was a false flag.

S – And when did you start looking it up on the Internet because I think people started posting immediately. You know, they were making YouTubes. The community began to express online. So when did you start looking into all of that?

P – We–a side note to this is that I have a lot of sources in and around and in that area. I have a lot of sources in regards to as to what’s going on with the president and the administration and so on, and every one of my sources said it was a false flag.

S – Now these are quasi-official… what kind of sources are these?

P – Let me say that there are the sources that are very close to this administration who knows what’s going on.

S – Really. So they are really like almost insiders then?

P – Oh yes.

S – And they all….they say it was a false flag because they figured it out like you did, or they had actually factual knowledge of such..

P – They had factual knowledge of such. That’s part of the plan.

S – I see. And so how much were they willing to tell you, and what else were they willing to tell you? Anything?

P – Oh, they told me quite a bit, and some of it I can’t reveal to you, but it fits the narrative of the anti-gun movement and the disarmament of America and that’s what the focus was.

S – And you realized that that’s part of the broader picture? That’s the Agenda 21 society?

P – Absolutely.

S – So do you want to tell us a little but about that or do you want to stick with the Sandy Hook material? I’ll let you decide.

P – Well, let’s go ahead with the Sandy Hook material and then we can jump into that.

S – OK, so we’re past Robbie Parker now, and what about the funerals? You must have known then that …Did you have any concept about victims or no victims, et cetera?

P – Well, that whole thing was pretty shaky. What was really starting to filter in in the system and was just confirming what I was already being told about these charity sites that had been developed. By the way, they were put up the day before the shooting. And I had gotten some screen shots, and I had confirmed with my sources. Some of them were thinking that it was a very sloppy operation actually.

But there were reassurances to me that there really were no victims and that everything’s being staged.


And of course the funerals to me…you go and look at the whole funeral process. It looked like they were all staged, from the Robbie Parker one in Utah, or the Sarah Parker one with the Parker family.

And then I started getting information from people that actually had attended that funeral who lived in Utah and said that was something very funny about it.

S – Now I would like to ask you whether your sense is that these are real families even, or are they patched together?

P – Well, you know, that’s a good question because, you know, the thing that rolls around in my head, you know, the actors type of thing, you know. You know because you can put families together and these acting programs will do that under certain training scenarios. And so, it’s a good question. It really is a fair question to ask whether or not they were real families.

S – And then of course because they continue to speak and organize and be called upon to comment, they have to be formed into these family groupings over time. And remain grouped like that whether they are truly married or not.

You know, here’s one thing that I noticed. When you see a couple, if they seem really like an odd couple, then that kind of strikes you as weird. And I saw that. I saw a very odd coupled-ness with lots of these Sandy Hook families. It seemed to me, why would this person marry this person and live with them? They’re so totally different. That happens sometimes but in this content it really jumped out at me…myself anyway. I didn’t know if you noticed that…

P – It’ different to say, you know, when you saw them together whether they are natural families or not. That’s…I’m suspicious of that. And like I say, I’m suspicious because I know that you can put these families together, you know, with some of these acting companies out there. And that just kind of blends in with what I was already being suspicious about.

And so, there’s a lot of things that would go into the details of examining this. And I’ve see a lot of the pictures and so on, and some of the pictures don’t match up, especially the one of the Parkers in the White House. And it looks like to me that’s Sarah Parker sitting there that’s, you know, supposed to be a victim.

S – There’s no Sarah Parker…

P – Which one is it…maybe it’s not the Parker…

S – Oh, you mean with Obama…

P – Yes, right.

S – Emily or Madeline …those are the two order sisters, and a lot of people felt that that was Emily Parker leaning on Obama.

P – Yes, that was Emily Parker…




S – Have you seen the Super Bowl video?

P – Yes, I have seen that.

S – Well, there is a girl who looks a lot like an older Emily Parker in that video. So if that was Emily at the White House, or actually I think…I don’t know if it was at the White House…but with Obama, she couldn’t be six in one picture and then just a month or two later, twelve or thirteen.

P – Right.

S – That’s where we have to make a decision.

But what did you think of all the photographs of the children? Did you notice anything – the portraits that we were shown that these were the victims? Did you notice anything about those portraits?

P – No, other than some of the malformations of different parts of their bodies – seemed to be a pretty obvious thing.

The whole thing …when you take a look at the totality of this, in my opinion, it’s very sloppily done.

S – Why would it have been sloppily done though?

P – Well, you know, when …and again, it’s kind of like sometimes there’s order that comes out of chaos. And when you have these chaotic situations, people want to put things back together as best they possibly can to feel more comfortable or to recover from it. And I didn’t see any of that. I don’t know if that makes any sense to anybody. People don’t want to have that chaos. They want to heal. They want to come back together. They want to solve a problem so that they can move forward.

And that’s part of what happens when you do these drills is that you take a day or so and you talk about what happened so that you can improve upon and make it better. People do that naturally even when there’s chaos and there’s an emergency situation because they want to seek normalcy again.

I didn’t see the same kind of emotions, if you will, or the same kind of communications between parents, kids, that you would normally see in these situations. It just didn’t look…it looked phony to me.

S – So you mean the community itself, they did not try to repair in the organic way…?

P – I would say that is true, from the parents to the kids, to the entire community.

S – What do you think of this privacy issue that has been bandied about by the authorities, that all the privacy needs to be respected, and you can’t reveal this or that…?

P – That to me just adds more fuel to the fire because that’s not what you do in the normal situation of an incident command system. You get the facts out because you know oftentimes when you get the facts out, you’re also looking for criminal behavior, and the more information that you can get out that that’s way, the better.

And I’m certainly not buying the notion that the parents weren’t allowed to see the kids.

S – The bodies, identifying the…

P – I just…that to me…that should be a red flag to anybody who has looked in to Sandy Hook. The parents weren’t allowed to do that. What’s up with that?




S – And what did you think of the coroner’s behavior at his press conference?

P – Well there’s many things about him. I just …I …first of all, I didn’t understand why all of a sudden there’s 26 bodies and then there’s no coroner or doctor who’s looked at the bodies and they’re declared dead. And then all of a sudden the coroner comes out and everybody says that there was an automatic gun or a handgun that was used, and the coroner, on his own, comes out and says ‘oh no, that was an AR15 that was used.’

So there’s a lot of confusion, you know, about that coroner, his report, his reporting out. Nothing seems very clear and concise to me. And you know I would argue that, you know, as I looked at him and watched what was going on, he seemed to be just answering question on the fly without a lot of knowledge behind the questions.

S – And this suggested to you that this was a sloppily created event?

P – Absolutely.

S – And would you say that that was because of the portent of the whole thing that they…there were people involved in this…let’s say Dr. Carver, the coroner, who had some idea, if it was a scripted event, it was going to go big, and really big? So do you think that the sloppiness of it was because in being organized, it’s very difficult to juggle how people are going to perform given that they know how big this thing could get?

P – Well, you know, what happens is that you…if you’re going to do these things and carry it through with the lie, everybody’s got to be telling the same lie at the same time all the time.

And I think with my judgments about the parents and the kids, and seeing them lie, I was seeing a big lie being perpetrated right in front of me because nothing seemed to be consistent. And like you said, which I thought was interesting, is that oftentimes the media would fill in a lot of the blanks for you.

A classic example of the blanks comes up when you talk about where are the kids that are evacuating the school. There were helicopters that were circling overhead. They certainly would have been able to show, you know, hundreds of kids exiting the school.

Teacher leading students away from Sandy Hook

That was never shown. But you did see a picture out in a parking lot, which by the way if you take a long look at this picture of all these kids being led out, about 15 or 20 kids being led out by teachers and adults from this parking lot, if you take a look at the parking lot from the aerial views, you can see that there are different cars in the parking lot in that area. So obviously that was done during some sort of drill. That’s my opinion. And it didn’t match with what was going on at the time. So nothing is matching in real time for me. That’s just another thing.

But where are the kids? Where were the kids? They weren’t present. They just weren’t there. So that’s the kind of stuff that wasn’t worked out and, you know, they were doing things on the fly. That’s why I say…I would say it was very amateur, very amateurish as to what was going on.

S – Which is surprising because in the powers that would have designed this thing – that it would be so amateur – but…

You are familiar with the character, Gene Rosen?

P – Gene Rosen – which one was …?




S – Gene Rosen was the man who was very close to the school and he took the kids in and offered them juice and cookies, and he gave many different…he recounted his rescuing or fielding these kids differently in many interviews. So can you comment on that?

P – I can comment on this because this points to this proves my point that these kids …did they get off a bus? Where did they go? OK, I think that one of the stories was that the kids got off the bus and they made their way to his house, and there was all this panic or whatever was going on. OK, there’s something really wrong with that picture to begin with.

First of all, when you’re doing these scenarios and this school had to have been trained for this because FEMA requires these trainings, and if you’re getting safety monies from the federal government, which every school does, they have to follow the proper protocols and that’s the proper release of the students to their parents.

S – Right. He said, that children showed up on his lawn and they were with a bus driver, in one story. In another story, they were just there by themselves and they were repeating babbling that there teacher was dead. So what…would the protocol be that the children…the children, according to the story, left the school on their own.

P – Well, that to me, that’s very suspicious in and of itself.

S – Right, I mean the cops had not gotten there in the first five minutes. Apparently some of them could still hear shooting going on, and how did the kids get out and just run down the road, you know?

P – All that seems to be …and again, I want to go into the thing about the incident command system, evacuation, walk-outs and so on. None of that fits that protocol. None of it.

The story of Gene Rosen or any of that stuff — None of that fits. That to me is just more evidence that there were no students other than the actor students that were there.

S – Then what was the purpose of having the Gene Rosen player?

P – Diversion.

S – From what?

P – A diversion from the other realities going on and to add more hype about the story. It’s the same thing about the guy that was chased through the woods. You know, they had a couple of guys that were chased through the woods. What were they all about?




And there were no answers about any of that, about where they came from and even my people couldn’t come up with an answer about that. Some of my people say it was very sloppily done.

S – These are your insider people, right?

P – Right.

S – Now did you see any of the videos of the people circling through the firehouse?

P – Yes.

S – And did that strike you …what did you think of that?

P – Well, I had already come to my conclusion that this was a drill, and again, being very suspicious of the Obama administration, Diane Feinstein, Second Amendment issues, using Agenda 21 in particular, I had not see that for quite some time afterwards, maybe a couple of weeks after.

We were engaged in our own things that we were doing in terms of investigations and stuff like that. We’re pretty intense about what we’re doing here on Agenda 21 Radio, and we have some very highly placed sources of information that comes to us and which we’re very grateful for.

I, for one reason or another, hadn’t seen that video maybe two or three weeks until after the incident.

There’s more evidence right there because what in the world were all those people doing there to begin with? You see, if you’re doing an incident command situation, there’s a place for those people and those people can be moved on rather than seeing that circus that was going on, which is what that was. That was all staged.

S – Right. And these were far too many adults, no children whatsoever, no panic. And to me the people that were there-–they weren’t dressed for December. So some people have suggested that that particular drill, the circling in and out of the firehouse, took place a lot earlier, and it matches the time frame and the clothing of the children evacuated from the school. They did not have their coats.

And I was going to ask you, is it normal when there’s an emergency for the teacher to evacuate the children without letting them get their coats, or would they take the extra time and say ‘children go put your goats on as fast as you can.’ How does that work?

P – Well no. If there’s a signal to get them out of the building, and there’s always a signal of some sort to get them out of the building safely, they go directly out. Period. End of subject.

And if they can get their coat, that’s great, but the safety thing is to get them away from where there potentially is a threat and that would be the key thing. And again, you pointed to something else and I brought this up earlier about the drill that we used to run and people would always, you know, screw up the drill because they would knock on the door in an active shooter situation and the teacher would open the door.

Well, you know, how does that all play out? I was looking at things pretty much in real time within minutes of news being broadcast as it was happening from a helicopter. Now I am a real-time kind of guy. So I’m looking at maybe 15 minutes into the shooter, maybe 20 minutes into the shooter situation. I’m looking at clear video of the campus and so on. I’m not seeing anything happening.

Where are the kids? The kids aren’t there.

S – Right.

P – And they should be released or what’s going on with them?

S – And there were some people said that they were in closets for up to four hours. That doesn’t make any sense either.

P – That does not many any sense to me because what happens, and again it goes back to the police, and back to Columbine, they will go in and check every nook and cranny. And quite frankly, I know how that’s done. We used to do that. We always used to look and check to see where people were.

S – Right. And you would not miss large adults hiding in small closets.

And the idea of Katelyn Boyd and some of these teachers bundling up all their kids into the bathroom and having a few sit on the toilet…I even heard the toilet roll holder, my God, that’s pretty tough to do even for a six year old. But what do you think of that? That doesn’t make sense to me.



P – Well, you know, we tell people in an active shooter situation to seek…to hide or …if there is a shooter there to take the challenge. We used to do these things where we had these dummy books and we’d bring in an active shooter as the stage person and throw books at them, you know, because that really throws them off. You’re taught those kinds of little techniques to throw the active shooter off.

But I can imagine some people getting holed up in a closet or something like that if they haven’t been able to lock the door. And that’s one of the things we tell our people all of the time. Lock the door. And we made sure in all schools, and all schools should have the, the doors should have the inside key on them, you know, so you can use an inside key on them also as we could on the outside.

S – So we have a couple of minutes left at this first hour. Do you have anything to say about Adam Lanza – fiction, non-fiction, real?

P – Well, just on the surface of it, and again I would throw out I’m highly specialized trained in drugs and alcohol recognition, obviously looks like he has some meds onboard just by the look. But you know if you couch that along the same lines that that this may be a fictional event, that he’s a fictional character, which fits his description of what I see there.

And of course if you’re doing a fictionalized event like this, you want to have the most crazed individual that you can have looking at you through the picture there, and that’s exactly what you have. That’s my speculation. I think that’s what they wanted. That’s what they did.

And he has a history and what is the history? We’re not real clear on the history. You know, first of all, they found out that he’s got his brother’s driver’s license. Then there’s some confusion. And you know it one of these kind of scenarios that just didn’t quite fit.

And as a school person that to me was one of the big pieces of evidence. Why does he have his brother’s license? And then they made contact his brother that I guess was in Jersey some place, wherever he was, and there was an investigation. That all seemed to be tracking with me as a distraction about what was really happening at the school.

See, the more they under this situation… this is just my speculation – the more they could distract from the actual Sandy Hook school site itself and stage things away from there, the more they could sell the story of Sandy Hook on the whole.

S – That’s a very very good point, Paul. Excellent. And we should add that the mug shot that they gave us of Adam Lanza was very painterly. It wasn’t even a photo, and it did have that, you know, ghoulish expression on it to make us think this is a real lunatic.

But we are now at the end of our first hour and I really really thank you, Paul Preston, for being with us. And we will take up a second hour discussion in the Members Section. So this is Sofia Smallstorm thanking everyone for listening to this first hour and please do come to PureMomemtum.net and join us for the second hour in the Members Section with Paul Preston, 41 years in the public schools and someone who has been through a lot of staging of drills and has a lot of drill understanding and experience.

*Article by Jim Fetzer, Sofia Smallstorm, and Paul Preston

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So pilgrim, this isn’t just me. There’s a silent majority that doesn’t see a broken system, they see a staged one. The Reformed community likes order. But that is not life. This fallen world is not orderly. The natural law and proper order is being discarded and the practical solutions are not being sought. I first had my eyes opened with that whole Benghazi fiasco where our embassy was left high and dry. Obama was super shady and on and on till I reevaluated everything. And here we are. Let’s discern it and support each other rather than look outside the Church for answers. Most people don’t want their world shaken, even while it’s being shaken, so we find comfort in truths as reported by those who want to deceive us and gaslight us. Not me. Their words lack authority, clarity and truth.

https://rumble.com/v3whimm-we-need-to-talk-about-sandy-hook-peter-klein.html

https://rumble.com/v40a3gg-maureen-crowley-speaks-sandy-hook-truth.html

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You’re not going to watch the video and comment are you….?

https://rumble.com/v3whimm-we-need-to-talk-about-sandy-hook-peter-klein.html

I would recommend you watch the New Pearl Harbor documentary on 9/11 too to get the clearest picture……. or not.

Unfortunately, I think they are going to use the growing mistrust of the government as an excuse to scrap it and replace it with something completely tyrannical. My recommendation would be to expose, shrink, and stabilize with 100% transparency. But until we detach from evil overlords our nation will be in bondage. As always, Spiritual citizenship is our only, true hope.

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Just to add. Not sure arguments from authority should apply when a significant level of deception is evident. The burden of proof shifts back to the fraudulent entity.

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FYI, there was a father of one of the children killed, you deny is factual, who appeared on a Newsmax segment who gave a brief overview of the events of that day. And, he without hesitation totally rejected the Lefts & Friends attempts to ban guns. Rather he wanted common sense improvements to the security of schools including the voluntary arming of teachers and school personnel who are vetted and adequately trained. In other words, he was not part of the alleged Jones conspiracy theory. Just on its face I cannot fathom how it would have been pulled off when one considers all the neighbors who know the alleged families, the names of every student enrolled in that school, all the police, fire and ambulances which are easily verified, hospital records of the injured, bus drivers, extended family members, etc., etc., etc. Just too many individuals involved to be able to pay everyone off to either go along with it or say anything to anyone.

Corruption within government is another animal, for it only takes a few heads of departments and agencies to make things happen and bribery of owners of media or one owner of a social media company with a few sympathetic socio-communists in their employ. To look at a few photos and creative a narrative is a far cry from producing actual documents which were not supposed to be known, never mind seen. Dinesh D'Sousa is very trustworthy due to his incredible investigative skills and the ability to obtain "unobtainable" documents, photos, video, etc. which he then unveils to the public through is films. I remember one of his films where he got special permission to view 'secret' documents which the public was forbidden to see/read. He had with him one of those tiny spy cameras and he snapped photos of some very damning information about the clandestine operations of the Democratic Party. No conspiracy theories coming from him. He simply risks it all, gathers information and then exposes the evil being done. The movie "2000 Mules" is an excellent recent film of his investigative findings re: the 2020 election fraud. And now recently he has "Police State" where he exposes how the justice department, CIA and FBI worked hand and hand with Zuckerberg and other social media traitors to cancel the truth of what was going on, including the total lies behind the CoVID scandal which ruined 100s of thousands lives and business all for getting rich.

So, bottom line for me, Anthony, in regard to the Sandy Hook shooting is that I have not found anything that would explain how it could work as a red flag choreographed farce. nope


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On this issue I have to lovingly regard you as a weaker brother since you understandably will not be able to wrap your head around the fact that the majority of these “conservative” news sites and high profile opposing sides are also controlled opposition as both parties are controlled and play their part but they seldomly do good. It’s all for appearances so the general public does not collectively lose it and believe somebody is fighting on their behalf. (They are patient, although incremental change has been ramping up).

There was this movie that came out called the Good Shepherd, directed by Robert Deniro, that did touch on some truth regarding the inception of the CIA and highlighted how many high profile types (e.g. college professor in one instance in the movie) are double agents - this is probably much more common today with various institutions funded and infiltrated. The small, private ones that are legit are smeared and bankrupted if they get in the way. I used to blog at a site called American Thinker that was threatened with libel and had to offer a written retraction/apology when trying to expose widespread election fraud.

https://lawandcrime.com/2020-electi...-stealing-stories-with-no-basis-in-fact/

https://reason.com/2021/01/17/an-ab...ters-of-trumps-election-fraud-fantasies/

(Guys like Kennedy and Lincoln who did not fully comprehend who was truly in charge despite their own associations were deemed necessarily expendable and gotten rid of)….

Obviously, there’s variations of “in the know” & “controlled opposition” but it’s like the mafia, there’s a line that cannot be crossed and most presidents and pundits will not. Ones that do pay the consequences. There is elite-approved and there’s the rest of us. There may be some disagreement among the elite and related deals but all the commoners are disposable/deplorable, including the majority of Democrat voters, gays and minorities (the deception is non-partisan). We don’t even register in the eyes of the neopagans. They are Darwinists and God-Haters - that’s how ruthless people gain so much power, it’s their god and they have no conscience or consequence. You can only get so successful before you are controlled.


This is my presupposition on these matters. So I’ll keep it to myself as not to sully further cultural-political discussions.

I know you agree with some of what I see & say but I understand it’s hard to comprehend that deceptions go this far back and run this deep (& the utter magnitude of these secret societies & shadowy powerbrokers pulling the strings).

I appreciate all that you do!!!! Merry Christmas!!!!

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“ Just on its face I cannot fathom how it would have been pulled off when one considers all the neighbors who know the alleged families, the names of every student enrolled in that school, all the police, fire and ambulances which are easily verified, hospital records of the injured, bus drivers, extended family members, etc., etc., etc. Just too many individuals involved to be able to pay everyone off to either go along with it or say anything to anyone.”

A lot of those questions are covered in my links and videos. If you can find sources verifying that info that don’t rely on an argument from authority I would change my position.

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I don't really want to engage too much in this but, and forgive me if I am wrong, it just seems that you have chosen to believe these conspiracy theories and may have gone too far with them. A lie, either way, is wrong. But to choose to believe a lie puts responsibility on you. I can't help but feel much concern for the families of those who died. Have they not grieved enough? There are holocaust deniers who make similar arguments as you and it is a terrible thing. Please be careful.


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To be fair, doing a quick search on Gallups, he seems to be one of these people I’m skeptical of. He may either say something that is a legit conspiracy to help make it appear even more fringe then it really is or he’s just firing up the culture wars and using a guise of religion to preoccupy Christians with politics and false saviors. Either way, it’s a dead end.

I personally, take more stock in documentary style reporting of my fellow man, as long as there is corroborating evidence. Many folks with a following, whether mainstream or fringe, are playing a part in forwarding the sweeping agenda. So at the end of the day, our own discernment is required. Lots of stuff is just thrown out there. Judge my words the same way. I have been seduced by controlled entities in the past. …

However, recently, I have included detailed video documentary with thorough and detailed info to at least show the absence of evidence or presence of counter evidence defeating official narratives. But if anyone is promoting Trump as a savior or any politician, I usually run, because lesser evils are just as usable when godless fascism is the end point. That can be achieved in multiple ways. But as long as big government is “doing things” to make lawlessness less odious, I’m convinced they are making things worse regardless. So guys like Gallups and even guys like Trump are fueling flames with less than sincere, noble intentions.

I wish it were all more straightforward but evil will not blatantly reveal itself as such….

A good rule of thumb, it they are not a child of God, more than likely, they will prove themselves, unabashedly and unrepentantly, untrustworthy. I am VanTillian in that regard.

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