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Joe k said:
You [J_Edwards] and HH have said this repeatedly. What do you mean perfect? I hope youare not referring to created without need of Christ. He was not morally perfect.

God said the light was good also, is light, water, etc etc morally pefect?
You can add me to that duo who believes that Adam was created "perfect". By that "I" mean that Adam was in fact "morally perfect"; what else could he have been? Unless, of course, you are going to insist that Adam was created morally imperfect; with sin? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/scratchchin.gif" alt="" /> God created Adam perfect in this sense that he was morally perfect but he was not fully developed in every area of his being, e.g., his knowledge of God, experience of himself or his surroundings, etc. But he was nonetheless perfect, in that he was created as God had intended him to be.

As to your equating "light and water" with Adam in regard to being "morally perfect", that's rather silly don't you think? Man was made in the "imago dei" and as such he was a spiritual/moral being endowed with a soul, which is a far different thing than "light" or "water" which has no morality, they not having been created with a soul. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/rolleyes2.gif" alt="" />

Obviously, you are going to disagree with some of this or perhaps even all. So what is your personal "take" on this issue? And are there others who would share your view and to whom you could point me/us so we could read what they wrote? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/BigThumbUp.gif" alt="" />

In His grace,


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