Just giving you a hard time John. I think if you look hard enough you can prove or disprove either side of baptism. I believe that both sides have valid arguments and I do not believe baptism essential to salvation. I do believe grace by faith (alone) in Christ is essential. That's why I cannot remain in a church that cannot stand up against a vocal minority.

Oh, and for everyone else; I don't want to start another baptism argument. If you all want to, have at it, but count me out. John and I are friends and my statements are just a little fun among friends. No intention to take this thread down that road intended.