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I'm in no way suggesting we compromise Calvinism but I'm saying you just don't start out with the Canons of Dort when the Apostle's Creed makes an adequate confession of faith unless you want to split hairs.

Wes,

I think I got your point on my first read of your post. I just can't go along with what you're saying. I don't think that Dort is splitting hairs. I think it's essential Christian doctrine. Nor do I think that the creeds are adequate, yet they're a great starting point. Why leave the meaning of the atonement open for anyone's interpretation? In the like manner, what does it mean that we believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins? I would start and finish with the Reformed confessions, but that's just my opinion. I'm just curious, how long do you think we should we wait until we tell a new convert that he's totally depraved? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/bananas.gif" alt="" />

Grace and Peace,

Ron