The Highway Forums General Discussion Open Forum Ravi speaks at the Mormon Tabernacle

If I may jump in here? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/giggle.gif" alt="" /> To me, a person is not and will not be genuinely converted until they have some knowledge and sense of their "total depravity".

The ONLY biblical reason why anyone is converted is because they have come under conviction of their 1) sinfulness, 2) sins and 3) guiltiness before God.

So, to iterate my position and to answer your question, which I am fully aware that it doesn't represent that which you believe, a true convert will already have a some knowledge and sense of his total depravity and it is upon that foundation that one should build, i.e., become discipled into a fuller knowledge and deeper sense of it.