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PaulRH said: 1. I believe the Gospel is offered unconditioanlly therefore everyone in that sense is loved by God. 2. I assume everyone I meet is elect. I have no reason not to. God doesn't grant me or anyone discernment into a person's ultimate eternal destiny. 3. No. Murderers are criminals. Do you assume that ALL are millionaires to see if a few may be? We are not suppose to assume that ANY are elect and share the Gospel from that perspective (i.e. presumptive regeneration <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/puke.gif" alt="" />). We share what we know. What do we know? EVERYONE is a sinner. This is a fact, not an assumption and the proper perspective to share the Gospel from. Paul says, Romans 10:1-4 Brethren, my heart's desire and my supplication to God is for them, that they may be saved. For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. For being ignorant of God's righteousness, and seeking to establish their own, they did not subject themselves to the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law unto righteousness to every one that believeth. Here Paul is not assuming everyone is elect for he knows that God will have mercy on whom He will have mercy, and will have compassion on whom He will have compassion (Rom 9:15). He has a heart desire and prayer that they may be saved, which reveals he assumes they are lost sinners. In addition, he adds, “they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge…,” revealing their lost state. Paul assumes his audience is lost and thus preached to them life in faith, hope, & the surety that God would convert the truly repentant called sinner in the 'fulness of time,' thus, revealing that repentant sinners (but, not all sinners) are elect from before the foundation of the world, etc.
Reformed and Always Reforming,
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A church reaches out to the world around them
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PaulRH
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Fri Feb 04, 2005 10:16 PM
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Pilgrim
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Henry
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PaulRH
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Sat Feb 05, 2005 6:38 PM
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Reformation Monk
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Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:53 PM
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Pilgrim
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Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:49 PM
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janean
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Fri Feb 18, 2005 7:49 PM
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CovenantInBlood
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:17 PM
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Like my teenage son says
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PaulRH
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:24 PM
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Re: Like my teenage son says
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CovenantInBlood
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:34 PM
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I tried.
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PaulRH
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:36 PM
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Re: I tried.
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Anonymous
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:11 PM
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Yep. John 8
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PaulRH
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:30 PM
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Re: Yep. John 8
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Anonymous
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:06 PM
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After further review the play stands
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PaulRH
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 1:56 AM
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CovenantInBlood
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 2:31 AM
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Re: After further review the play stands
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Tom
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:09 AM
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Re: After further review the play stands
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Anonymous
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:53 AM
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Re: I tried.
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CovenantInBlood
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:32 PM
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Anonymous
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Sat Feb 05, 2005 8:35 PM
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Ted thanks for actually engaging the letter.
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PaulRH
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Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:53 PM
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Re: Ted thanks for actually engaging the letter.
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Anonymous
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Sun Feb 06, 2005 3:38 AM
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Re: Ted thanks for actually engaging the letter.
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Reformation Monk
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Sun Feb 06, 2005 4:19 AM
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Sun Feb 06, 2005 7:40 AM
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Re: Ted thanks for actually engaging the letter.
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Pilgrim
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Sun Feb 06, 2005 4:32 PM
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Nice softball, Pilgrim . . . . . .
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 1:10 AM
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Re: Nice softball, Pilgrim . . . . . .
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J_Edwards
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:01 AM
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Re: Your Questions, J Edwards
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Anonymous
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:59 PM
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Re: Your Questions, J Edwards
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J_Edwards
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:54 PM
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Re: Your Questions, J Edwards
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Anonymous
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:15 AM
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I believe as you believe Ted
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PaulRH
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:29 AM
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CovenantInBlood
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:39 AM
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PaulRH
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 1:30 PM
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Anonymous
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 1:36 PM
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Sorry, my fault
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PaulRH
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 2:41 PM
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 9:10 PM
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 9:42 PM
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:17 PM
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Anonymous
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CovenantInBlood
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:48 PM
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You might consider this as my response re worship
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PaulRH
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:50 AM
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 12:30 PM
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 1:27 PM
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:52 PM
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Re: the Sufficiency of God and His Word
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:03 PM
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Reformation Monk
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Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:26 AM
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Re: Nice softball, Pilgrim . . . . . .
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