Kalled said:
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The people in our churches, whether they will come out and say it or not, believe that people from other faiths will be in heaven with us even if they don't believe the Gospel or are hostile to it. He also states it in the way that the people in our churches would say it. We need to understand where our people are at if we are to minister effectively to them.[/quote]

Could you clarify here?, it doesn't make sense.

Well it's interesting to hear your point of view. Again I respectfully think you're nuts!! ( if there's a respectful way to say that:)) Sorry but that's what I think - and that's what I think about my associate pastor too. Unfortunately he's been deceived with McLaren and he has told me that he agrees and relates to Mclaren that the gospel is a bigger thing then we've all learned and known in the last 500 years and other things. Not sure if he (McLaren) says this in Generous Orthodoxy, but McLaren says this in A New Kind of Christian and other places. All the "good" stuff you are seeing from McLaren is a deception and it's "clouding" all the kooky stuff and theology that he's presenting.

Well enough said.