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packsaddle said: A person is baptized “in the name of the Father,” meaning that God is now his gracious Father; “in the name of the Son,” meaning that he receives all the benefits of the Son’s work of redemption; and “in the name of the Holy Spirit,” meaning that he receives in baptism the life-giving presence of the Holy Spirit. “In the name of” has in it the meaning “by authority of” and “on the basis of.” Baptism has the authority of the Triune God behind it. The power and effectiveness of baptism is guaranteed by the Triune God. Baptism brings a person into a relationship with the Triune God. It's funny that this sounds uncannily similar to what those advocating NPP, Auburnitism, Shepherdism, etc. are teaching. So, let me get this perfectly straight. According to your view, "The power and effectiveness of baptism is GUARANTEED by the Triune God." And this guarantee is to everyone who undergoes baptism and includes: - A ["right" assumed] relationship with God
- God is now the person's "gracious Father"
- All of Christ's atoning work is applied
- The indwelling of the Holy Spirit
Therefore, of necessity, one must conclude that EVERYONE without exception, due to the infallible promise guarantee given by the Triune God, when they are baptized are eternally saved. And in baptism, "regeneration" is given from which faith flows. I really doubt that further comment concerning this anti-biblical view need be said, at least on my part. You are free, of course, to try and defend this view from the Scriptures if you like.  In His grace,
simul iustus et peccator
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