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J_Edwards said:
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speratus said:
I'm sorry I did not make myself clear. When I said I could not sing the Bonar hymn in a Presbyterian church, I did not mean that no Presbyterian church would sing it. I meant that I personally could not sing it.

Rev. Bonar uses the correct words but assigns incorrect meaning to the words. Because of Bonar's and his church's false Christology, singing that hymn in a Presbyterian church would be confessing false doctrine.

I hope that answers J Edwards question.
Speratus you missed the implications of the answer that you are avoiding. The historical Speratus either lied in his doctrine or lied in the hymn he prepared if we take your definition of its interpretation. Thus, when did Speratus lie and why did he lie? More importantly are you like the real Speratus? Or could it be that you were incorrect and just refusing to admit it?

Stop avoiding the question Speratus. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/3stooges.gif" alt="" />

As I said previously, I will leave it to those fluent in German to the judge the accuracy of the translation I posted. Hymn translations often reflect the bias of the translator.

I concur with the doctrine expressed in that translation. As far as I know, the translation reflects Speratus' personal doctrinal stance as a minister of an Augburg confessing church.