Hi Everyone

My original Post was not intended to stir controversy or confusion, as I understand that this is and can be quite a controversial subject. It is meant to edify and to help those under the weight of the Law due to its use in Sanctification. I was not raised in the Church but was saved one night while crying out to God on my knees. “God if you are out there, I am lost come and save me, I am a great sinner. If people knew my thoughts no one would want to approach me and I can not overcome my sinful thoughts and lifestyle”. The next morning I had this ton of weight (burden)in my spirit lifted off. I had joy unspeakable and the peace that surpassed all understanding. I thought it had something to do with Christianity so I went out and bought a Bible. Devoured it in a year. My Aunt, 4 months after I was saved told me the hunger and thirst for the Word was because the Holy Spirit was leading me.

17 years later and watching 4 Reformed Baptist churches break up, the Lord had taught me why the Law was grieving the Spirit and literally beating the life out those again under the yoke of bondage. This Post is for those who is struggling with what it mean to live by faith, walk by faith and to fight the good fight of faith in the Spirit besides manifesting the fruits of the Spirit, Love, Joy, Peace, Longsuffering against such there is NO LAW. I am not a Charismatic, as the Spirit teaches us to be sober and of a sound mind while enjoying the fruits of the Spirit. Please find my reply to Pilgrim.
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”This month's article presents a look at what Mr. De Graaf calls "Two Covenants".” (From the Post)

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The late Rev. De Graaf was a minister in the Reformed Churches of the Netherlands. (From the bottom of the Article)


Hi Pilgrim,

The Author of this months Article is with the Lord and Article of the Decalogue was mine to a friend. The first paragraph of my original Post was my saying that the late Rev. De Graaf does not have scripture support for the two covenants he is writing concerning. The New Testament is clear in telling us what are the 2 Covenants of Law and Grace and how the Christian is to treat both. We are not to be under and are to cast out the Law(s) given to Moses including the Decalogue. The Christian life is to be live out in the power of the Holy Spirit by Faith to overcome the remaining corruption. That is why Paul was fighting the good fight of faith and when he was leaving the world, he said that he has kept the faith, not the laws or have obtain a higher ability to keep the law. Sanctification by the law will revive sin.

Your reply, very much like the Article by Mr. De Graaf, sounds logical but it draws out a lot of writing without quoting or using other scripture for support in its content. Your logic does not support nor refute the scripture references given in my original Post. I have had to learn in order to understand another person’s interpretation I have to look at why they deduce their understanding from the text they speak of and refute it with other scriptures. A wholesale logical system of thinking without that process is just regurgitating much of what another believes. Many times, even misunderstanding what the authors intended to say. If you try to attach scriptures to your reply, it will be difficult to systematically and coherently give a reasonable answer besides having to refute what obvious scriptures that I posted to refute Mr. De Graff’s Article. If you try to scripturally correct my original Post, I believe you will have a difficult time. I do not mean just a verse here or there but good solid sections of scripture and with other scriptures supporting it.

Again, my point for the Post is to help those who are struggling with Sanctification and to show that keeping the Law for Sanctification is pride and from the flesh. If we keep the Law for Sanctification then we can actually start a list and compare it with other brethren to see who is more sanctified than another is at any given time or day. When Jesus said, keep my commandments he is not speaking of the Law, as you believe. He is speaking about the New Covenant of trusting him to overcome by his blood, which takes faith. When a Christian is struggling, the Holy Spirit comes and says, He that is in you is greater than he that is in the world. Faith worketh by Love Galatians 5:6 KJV: For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love. When we see what Christ’s love has done in the Word, will we believe (faith) and be joyful. If we do not believe (faith) then discouragement will continue. If we overcome by the flesh in keeping the Law, then Sanctification will return to that yoke of bondage, as the flesh has no power to overcome. If we feel good about our standing (sanctification) by keeping the law then Christ is of none affect and we glorify in our effort. Furthermore


12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned--
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13 for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
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14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of the offense of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come.


What does it mean “but sin is not imputed when there is no law” yet “Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses”. The idea that there is a Covenant with Adam, the Laws written in the heart and the conscience, both being the same things as to that which was given at Mt. Sinai, is not supported as the above verses indicates. Sinned did kill even when the law was not given. It specifically says that the Law was not until Moses even though everyone dies. Sin is not imputed where there is no Law, nevertheless. The Two Covenant Article and your reply indicates that there was a Covent of works (Law) in the beginning to Adam and the Scriptures teaches otherwise. Being they (the Covenants that does not exist if they did exist) are not related, there is no Perpetuity. Cast out the Law at Mt. Sinai, including the decalogue because it was not for the purpose to sanctify. For those in the middle of this please read my original Post for the purpose of the Law and how the Christian establish it's use.

The whole point of all of this is that we should not create something where the Scripture obviously says there is no such a thing as the Covenant with Adam, he with his wife and try to related to the Law(s) at Sinai that the Christian is not to use for Sanctification but instead cast out. I think the real problem and fear lies in if it is true that we are to cast out the bondwoman how will, is the Christian going to be or get sanctified? We will leave that one alone for now.


Blessings in Christ,

Ben