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Young Catholic said: Following Augustine, the Catholic church asserts that people are unable to make themselves righteous; instead, they require "justification."
Catholic theology holds that God's righteousness is infused into the sinner when he or she partakes of the sacrament of baptism (either by actually being baptized- or by being baptized through Spirit ), combined with faith.
The Catholic Church does not promote a work-based faith. The Church does hold to the belief that if you are a Christian- you should be led to do works, but these works and not required by any means to get into heaven. Young Catholic, You are either woefully ignorant about what the Roman State Church's official doctrines are or you are being deliberately deceitful..... which? Anyone who is even vaguely familiar with the differences that have existed and which are the battleground between Catholicism and Protestantism knows that "justification" is the doctrine (one of many to be sure) which has been the most debated. Baptismal regeneration is a doctrine most vehemently rejected by Protestants as being "works-based" and NOT of grace. Secondly, "infused righteousness" is likewise adamantly rejected . . . take note of my signature: simul iustus et peccator. As I have already indicated there is a litany of other doctrines which Scripture and thus true Protestants find in error. Thus we cannot recognize either the Roman State Church as being a part of Christ's Church on earth or in heaven nor accept the overwhelming majority of Rome's members are being part of the body of Christ, aka: Christian. Yes, there are undoubtedly exceptions in regard to individuals who are ignorant of what Rome teaches/believes. But we are confident that when these individuals are eventually enlightened, they will leave Catholicism as the truth of Scripture is revealed to them. Perhaps if you read Michael Horton's article found here: What Still Keeps Us Apart?, it will either refresh your memory as to the REAL differences between Rome and Christ's Church or you will be introduced for the first time what they are. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/shrug.gif" alt="" /> Lastly, as to your jovial remark about all those who before Luther went to hell, you are assuming, of course, that everyone before Luther was a faithful Roman Catholic. The truth is that there have always been those both within and without Rome's web who have been at odds with its teachings. Some survived with their opposition, e.g., Luther and many did not. But nonetheless, there has always been God's elect throughout history who have professed the truth as it is found in Christ and in His infallible Word. Though they have been and in fact always will be but a remnant, they are the sheep of His pasture and enjoy the grace of God in Him. In His grace,
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Remember- Romans 10:9-11
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