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Some, like Calvinists and Reformed Theologians, continue to advocate the extreme predestination first hinted at in Augustine.

Yes, we are quite the extremists <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/takethat.gif" alt="" />

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The mercy of God is necessary not only when a person repents, but even to lead him to repent, Augustine