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Ooops. Sorry for that.
I do not disagree with the passages you have sited and they are all true. As we grown in the Lord we certainly will become more godly, however this is not an immediate sign for all throughout Scripture there is reference to fiery trials, and trials of our faith, and the Lord making a way when we are tempted, and confessing our sin if we do. In the beginning it is almost impossible to tell a Christian and and non Christian apart...we might speak Christianeze and be able to recite the Apostoles Creed, but holiness and fruits of the Spirit are never immediate, and in some cases can take a really long time to manifest. Some just refuse to let the Holy Spirit lead, and will try to obey the commands from the flesh. Silly, but that is us, we are silly. There however is one true sign that a person is a Christian. We have His Spirit, the Spirit of Christ in us. It is this same passage that says if we do not we are none of His. It is this same Spirit whereby we are now relations of God and cry Abba Father.
I used to always get so into bondage trying to keep the commands until after years of fruitless living, I began to let the Holy Spirit lead me. I had filled my head up with Scritpure and was quite clever at reciting passages, but the truth was I was not living a Romans 8 Christianity, I was living a Galatians 3 one, where I had forgotten that the Spirit is not given to us on the basis of our obedience to the law, He is the gift of the Father who when He is leading enable us to live above the power of the flesh. Praise God for that, what a terrible life if our experience was based on effort after having received the Spirit of God. He has come to live not just with us but in us and this is how we know firstly that others are Christians, we sense the Spirit of God. People who have not the Spirit only sense a little for they are blind, but when they come into the light, and thier sins are forgiven and they are cleansed from all unrighteousness, the will know fellowship with the Father and the Son, this is really what being a Christian is Boanerges. Having a relationship with Jesus Christ. No relationship and you cannot be a Christian. Just religious.
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