Yes oi know what you mean. But my first meeting i went to i just prayed "Lord i am not going to beleive anything i see unless it checks out with your word" And what do you know, i picked up one of their leaflets and it used that passage in acts 18, or 19 where peter askes if they had recieved the holy spirit etc. On a board like this im sure you are all well aware that thse people were not even saved yet, they were JOHNS deciples. So to cut it short, its divisive, this i know. i Have a great book i am reading on "charasmatic chaos" and i am getting to grips with the bigger picture but not so much this org's specifics. Hence the post <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />