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Robin said:
1. In the Scriptures I find elders appointed by the Apostles and evangelists rather than chosen by "popular vote" from a pool of candidates, . . .
Well, the problem I see here is that there are no more Apostles nor Evangelists (early N.T. type). So, unless you are going to go back to Pente-caustalism and embrace the perpetuity of the Apostleship, who would "appoint" these men? Is it really any better that a bunch of liberal or heretical or worldly "officials" appoint men after their own liking rather than a congregation choosing from among a group of men who have initially met the basic qualifications? Neither alternative can prevent what we all would like to not see happen.

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2. I find no Scriptural justification for giving greater ecclesiastical authority to "teaching elders" (who alone are eligible for appointment to many committees and who alone are authorized to administer the sacraments, etc) than to so-called "ruling elders." Certainly there is Scripture to demonstrate the principle of "first among equals", such as Peter among the Eleven, but none giving one elder authority over the others.

3. Deacons were chosen in at least one instance by consensus from among the people, but I cannot find a single instance of elders being chosen in such a way.
I've already remarked on this subject many times before. I am in full agreement that there is equality among the Eldership but a diversity of gifts. Today, we mainly see churches ruled by a Protestant Pope, i.e., the "PASTOR" before whom everyone must and does bow. [Linked Image] In my experience, this is most typically seen in independent churches but it can also be seen in Presbyterian-type churches as well. There is this "I got the degree, so I'm the boss" mentality. But the truth is, I've known men who have had no formal training
but who have a far superior knowledge of the Bible and theology than the seminary-trained Pastor.

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Robin asks:
Is there such a thing as an EpiscoPresbytalian church anywhere?
[Linked Image] but I've been a Presbygationalist for years. [Linked Image]

In His grace,


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simul iustus et peccator

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