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da_unlearned said:
I talked with the same guy again and tried a couple of the arguments I have found most appealing to me here on the highway.. However, this is his "new" argument..

He said, "I understand that according to you, "reformists" that God simply changed my will into one that would want and love Him. Yet, if it is in my nature to hate Him, and I would NEVER want ANYTHING to do with Him, is not His changing my will a forceful act? I never wanted to know Him or to love Him, and yet He turned me into one who would want and love Him.."

I hope I got all the contexts right and its understandable.
I will try your approach Tom.. and see what I can do.

I don't see what his objection is, other than he didn't change his own will.

Kyle

I tell you, this man went down to his house justified.