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hisalone said:
Yes, but time was involved, the Son of God had to be born into the realm of time in order to suffer and die. Until that was done, there wasn't the type of propitiation that you are talking about. If it was, then all the O.T. sacrifices were for nothing. If the O.T. saints believed, then they were washed by Christ's "future" blood, and there wouldn't have been the need for all those bloody sacrifices. Doesn't add up to me.

The OT sacrifices were sacramental. They pointed forward to the redemption that would be accomplished in time by Christ. But that future redemption was applied to the OT saints, not because the animal & grain sacrifices could take away their sins, but because they hoped in the Christ who was to come. The Lord's Supper is similar in this way: it points back to the redemption that was accomplished in time by Christ, and that past redemption is applied in the present to the saints, not because the Lord's Supper is in itself an effective sacrifice, but because we hope in the Christ who served as our propitiation.

Kyle

I tell you, this man went down to his house justified.