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hisalone said: Something that has interested me and has been on my mind is the disagreement on the issue of the mode of baptism, immersion or sprinkling. Aside from your wanting to assign the uniqueness of Christ's mediatorial priesthood universally to believers, you seem to have overlooked or possibly rejected a third mode of baptism; effusion (pouring). Why is that? Paedobaptists have recognized all three modes, although some have shoved immersion into the background, most likely due to the insistence of credobaptists that immersion is the ONLY proper mode and have even gone to the extent of excluding anyone who will not submit to immersion. Here's how the Westminster Confession of Faith states the Presbyterian view of baptism:
[color:"blue"]The Westminster Confession of Faith, Chapter XXVIII Of Baptism[/color]
I. Baptism is a sacrament of the new testament, ordained by Jesus Christ,[1] not only for the solemn admission of the party baptized into the visible church;[2] but also, to be unto him a sign and seal of the covenant of grace,[3] of his ingrafting into Christ,[4] of regeneration,[5] of remission of sins,[6] and of his giving up unto God, through Jesus Christ, to walk in newness of life.[7] Which sacrament is, by Christ's own appointment, to be continued in his church until the end of the world.[8]
1. Matt. 28:19 2. I Cor. 12:13; Gal. 3:27-28 3. Rom. 4:11; Col. 2:11-12 4. Gal. 3:27; Rom. 6:5 5. John 3:5; Titus 3:5 6. Mark 1:4; Acts 2:38; 22:16 7. Rom. 6:3-4 8. Matt. 28:19-20
II. The outward element to be used in this sacrament is water, wherewith the party is to be baptized, in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, by a minister of the gospel, lawfully called thereunto.[9]
9. Acts 8:36, 38; 10:47; Matt. 28:19
III. Dipping of the person into the water is not necessary; but baptism is rightly administered by pouring, or sprinkling water upon the person.[10]
10. Heb. 9:10, 13, 19, 21; Mark 7:2-4; Luke 11:38
IV. Not only those that do actually profess faith in and obedience unto Christ,[11] but also the infants of one, or both, believing parents, are to be baptized.[12]
11. Acts 2:41; 8:12-13; 16:14-15 12. Gen. 17:7-14; Gal. 3:9, 14; Col. 2:11-12; Acts 2:38-39; Rom. 4:11-12; Matt. 19:13; 28:19; Mark 10:13-16; Luke 18:15-17; I Cor. 7:14
V. Although it be a great sin to contemn or neglect this ordinance,[13] yet grace and salvation are not so inseparably annexed unto it, as that no person can be regenerated, or saved, without it;[14] or, that all that are baptized are undoubtedly regenerated.[15]
13. Gen. 17:14; Matt. 28:19; Acts 2:38; see Luke 7:30 14. Rom. 4:11; Acts 10:2, 4, 22, 31, 45, 47 15. Acts 8:13, 23
VI. The efficacy of baptism is not tied to that moment of time wherein it is administered;[16] yet, notwithstanding, by the right use of this ordinance, the grace promised is not only offered, but really exhibited, and conferred, by the Holy Ghost, to such (whether of age or infants) as that grace belongeth unto, according to the counsel of God's own will, in his appointed time.[17]
16. John 3:5, 8 17. Rom. 6:3-6; Gal. 3:27; I Peter 3:21; Acts 2:38, 41
VII. The sacrament of baptism is but once to be administered unto any person.[18]
18. Rom. 6:3-11
In His grace,
simul iustus et peccator
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