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William said: I guess the phrases "must adhere" and "who impose" seemed to me to lump all who prepare for the Lord's day together with the "nuts" and "Pharisees". Mostly though I fear for those who read this thread and think that the old ways are just a bunch of crap. Ya know the church is not getting more holy but less holy and I think that the Lord is removing His Holy Spirit. So, perhaps we should give Him more time in our thoughts on the Lord's day instead of cooking and washing dishes for two hours. Some of the "old ways" were and still are, "a bunch of crap"... human reasonings not grounded in God's infallible inerrant inspired written Word. The Pharisees did many things right, at least outwardly, and the Lord Jesus Christ commended them for doing so. The heart that sought after God by faith, however, was sorely absent in them. And so, Jesus upbraided them often and made an example of them as those who were not destined to heaven. They considered themselves "more holy" than others because they adhered to laws, both instituted by God but particularly those instituted by themselves. See for example, Luke 18:10-14 (ASV) "Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as the rest of men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. I fast twice in the week; I give tithes of all that I get. But the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote his breast, saying, God, be thou merciful to me a sinner. I say unto you, This man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be humbled; but he that humbleth himself shall be exalted."
Is it really "more holy" to prepare one's meals on Saturday night rather than on Sunday? If it really is "more holy" (just the terminology reveals the seriousness of the matter at hand), then ALL who don't follow that practice are by default, "less holy" and to some degree (to be determined by who I wonder?) are dishonoring to God and profaning the Day. Did the Lord Jesus Christ err in plucking corn, shucking the ears and eating them with His disciples? Shouldn't He have "prepared" for the Sabbath more prudently and gathered to Himself enough grain/corn on Friday knowing it was "more holy" to not do such things on the Sabbath Day? The Pharisees thought so. But from what I read in Scripture, the Pharisees were wrong and the Lord Jesus Christ kept the Sabbath as it was intended by God and not by the ideas of men. I believe eating, washing, and such other things are included in the exclusion, "works of necessity" as shown by Christ's own life.  In His grace,
simul iustus et peccator
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