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I am not playing the martyr. My life is at peace with God. You guys are however playing the heresy hunters looking to trap and accuse us by those creeds which the traditions of men have produced which they have added to the gospel in order to judge men by them - to condemn them. We are not doing this to you, but you are trying to do this to us.

It's probably a good thing that no computer viruses can be sent thru the forum or someone here would probably try to silence us that way. Hate originates in the heart, which Jesus said is equal to murder. The venom that comes thru the posts here is proof enough who the vipers and scorpions are. And when you get us to respond in kind you rejoice and point the finger at us as 'proof' we are evil.

The Lord has not made the trinity, the hypostatic union or the 2nd visible bodily return of the Lord the test for my faith. Yet men have added these things - things which cannot be proved by scripture - only surmised. Yet because we do not agree with your surmisings, you say we deny Christ.

I am having no problem seeing who the Pharisee is in this scenario. It is the one who is trying to hold fast to his traditions and the position he thinks they give him in the world of religion.

There is nothing new under the sun.
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I agree with you completely, R----. And not only can we see who the Pharisee is but we shall see shortly this modern day Pharisee reject that it is by his/her doing that they have not received Christ's full message of how to conduct one's life in a servant Christ-like attitude.

Note; These posts appeared today, I dont think any comment or set up is needed ,except that these 2 posts and the 2 from the above, are from 4 different authors. H.