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Quote: Originally Posted by Mxaxaxa FFP, And yet a very clear spiritual understanding that was to be gained in witnessing this sign event (symbol/ earthly shadow), was that the dead were being raised just as the temple was about to be destroyed. This is what the futurist and partial preterist (and the idealist?) rejects and puts off to a future appearance of Christ in this earth.
If the dead are not being raised, then is Christ not raised. We have our hope in resurrection upon death because Christ has been raised. This is the only resurrection that has been witnessed in the earth by the living. The manifestation of that truth that Christ was the only way to the Father was not fully revealed to the living until the temple came down. Until then it still looked like Judaism was a way acceptable to God. It was this truth which the cross made available when the veil was torn which was revealed to the saints. But the world & Jewry was going to see it too when the glory of God was manifested in the earth thru this event.
Thus we ought to know that when we come into His presence at death we will be given new bodies at that time because all of these things have been fulfilled from beginning to end as God had declared. The hope of heaven and glory belongs to the saint who has been given eternal life so that he will not see nor taste death when his passing comes. Without this understanding, some hope in a disembodied state at death. Yet this is not what Jesus' own resurrection revealed would be the case for those who were living and believing in Him. The only ones who had to wait a little longer were those who had died before the cross.
I do see that the Idealist view brings a lot for our understanding except as it concerns this important point. We need not spiritualize the resurrection of the dead into something other than what we have been told is our hope. Which this sign event was intended to reveal. Christ in us the hope of glory. Hitch responds; And its easy to see why you cited no Scripture in supoport of this heresyNote the FP is in the quote box the orthodaox response in is red.
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