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This detestable doctrine is saying that God was begotten of God..That the very God was begotten of the very God.. Yes, thats right, the concept of the Son being begotten of The father, in His Deity, very God begotten of very God, finds its roots in greek mythology..Its of the devil..and many believe it and support it.. - The Nicene Creed teaches no such thing, i.e., "God was begotten of God".
The creed is more than clear that the Son is of the same essence homoousios with the Father: "God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father;". We know that the Son is equal to the Father and pre-existent, i.e., He was not made (created) from such texts as, Mic 5:2; Jh 1:14, 18; 3:16; 517, 18, 30, 36; Acts 13:33; Jh 17:4; Col 1:16; Heb 1:3. So, what did the Father 'generate' in regard to the eternal Son, the second person of the Trinity? First, what it wasn't was the Son's divine essence, for then the creed would be rightly charged with teaching that "God begot God". Rather, generation is referring to the "personal subsistence" of the Son. Again, I think Berkhof succinctly summarizes both the right understanding of the Nicene Creed, which is that held by true Christians and was what Christendom in total embraced, and the biblical teaching concerning the generation (only begotten) of the Son:
It is that eternal and necessary act of the first person in the Trinity, whereby he, within the divine Being, is the ground of a second personal subsistence like His own, and puts this second person in possession of the whole divine essence, without any division, alienation, or change. - Since you have publicly stated that you reject the eternal generation of the Son and this fundamental doctrine of the Christian religion, what is your view in regard to:
a. The doctrine of the Trinity? Is there but one God Who exists in three persons? Or ?? b. Who is the Son, the Logos of God in His person and essence? c. Who is the Holy Spirit?
In His grace,
simul iustus et peccator
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