Funny thing Pilgrim is that the article you recommended by Schreiner is the one that is taken to task, look over the article I linked when you get the chance.

Don't get me wrong - Predestination/Perseverance of the saints does not fall with corporate election - but again, the case is being made that when Paul speaks of election it is in a coporate sense. I'm not saying this guy is right about Romans 9 stricly speaking of corporate election alone - I think God's soveriegnty is obviously on display and I would disagree that there is no reference to individual salvation at hand but this article that somebody linked to me did blindside me somewhat.

Last edited by AC.; Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:33 PM.
The mercy of God is necessary not only when a person repents, but even to lead him to repent, Augustine