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These are not difficult questions to answer for even the weakest and least educated of the Lord's sheep. How therefore does Mr. Packer find difficulty in responding Biblically, for surely, on some level, as for example in his natural judgment as opposed to his spiritual judgment, he sees the error of his actions? I would suggest that the answer is found in the last quoted scripture, namely, that Mr. Packer "would be a friend of he World".

I really think that what you wrote here and previously as well is unwarranted and anything but cordial in regards to Dr. J.I. Packer. There is little question that his deliberations with the Roman Catholics in the matter of "Sola Fide" is perplexing. However, he has publicly given a reason for his involvement which may not totally justify what he's doing in the minds of some, myself included, but there is no basis to judge the man and accuse him of being "a friend of the world"! rolleyes2 As I have written elsewhere in defense of the inconsistencies which exist between one's mind and heart, e.g., with one who vocally professes to embrace Arminianism yet in the heart believes that God saves by sovereign grace, which should guard us against making rash judgments. I think that it is only appropriate that one be very careful to not be guilty of character assassination, especially one who has been one of the most prolific and staunch defenders of the doctrines of grace.

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It would be accurate, in my opinion, to say that Mr. Packer espouses the doctrines of grace, or that perhaps he gives lip service to them, but to say that he embraces them, and that there is no evidence that he embraces anything else would make your statement in it's entirety a contradiction, because he has admitedly embraced ecumenism and the world.

That Packer has embraced ecumenicism and the world is again an unwarranted and unsubstantiated judgment on your part. I personally have not read anything written by Packer (not that I have everything which he has penned) which would justify this very serious and harsh allegation. May I remind you that the man is Dr. J.I. Packer and not Clark Pinnock or Dave Hunt, et al. Perhaps your definition of being "a friend of the world" goes beyond what the Scripture teaches? I have never known Dr. Packer to be guilty of worldliness. In fact, he is anything but "worldly" in his life. If we had more men who sought after holiness even close to that which he has exhibited over his life-time, it would be a good thing. Likewise the charge that he has embraced ecumenicism certainly would need to be proved; i.e., that he professes that there is salvation outside of Christ. Can you substantiate your allegation against Dr. Packer?

Let one's criticism of another be based upon FACT and not FANCY!

Matthew 7:2-5 (ASV) "For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured unto you. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me cast out the mote out of thine eye; and lo, the beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye."
In His Grace,


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