Joe-<br><br>Certainly I accept that I am a relative newbie in most of the finer points of these discussions. I don't hesitate to ask for pardon for (unwittingly) stepping on your toes with my post. <br><br>I think maybe you're taking me to task too harshly, though. I understood your comment in the context it was presented, agree with it, and even if in an amateur way, presented Scripture in support of you with my allegedly tangential point.<br><br>It would probably have been much clearer if I'd said I find it ironic that even Jesus found the use of various unimpeachable sources of evidence to be of little use to those particular people with whom He was sharing. So my post *was* about the HOW TO share that's being discussed.<br><br>I accept my culpability for stepping over the request from the original poster that only those versed in these methods should reply................... it may indeed be true that only fools (speaking of myself) go where sometimes even angels fear to tread.<br><br>Cecil