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Whew! If that isn't a great title huh?
Hello! New here. I'll do another thread introducing myself, but for now, I need help!
I have friends who are into New Covenant Theology (they don't know that though) who follow the teachings of Paul Washer, John Piper, Charles Leiter, etc.
I am trying to explain that these men teach neonomianism (new law; in other words, OT law was fulfilled, but Jesus gave a new law as seen in the Sermon on the Mount). The one friend I am trying to explain it to is not getting it at all.
I am wondering if anyone has links, videos, ANYTHING that will be concise and show that Christ did not bring a new law. It's like this: instead of the message of the Bible being LAW-GOSPEL-GRACE or GUILT-GRACE-GRATITUDE is another way to put it, they see it as O.T. LAW-GOSPEL-N.T. LAW
I hope that makes sense. We, as believers are to see our sin by way of the Law of God (makes us understand we our misery) then we receive the Gospel (makes us understand we were paid for by Christ's active obedience) and then we are grateful (out of our gratitude, we then obey).
Okay, so with all that said, I'm not finding a whole lot on people speaking against New Covenant Theology which leads to New Law (neonomianism) which then leads to extra burdens such as:
can't drink can't smoke can't cuss etc.
But worse, still! It leads to things like "can't say darn 'cuz that's a word that replaced damn and if we say damn then we are not holy." I am seeing NCT as REALLY HORRIFIC stuff and infiltrating churches (a lot coming from Paul Washer and followers, little known Charles Leiter, and of course, John Piper). It lays heavy burdens on believers and a complete mess of sanctification, making sanctification more on the believer than on the Spirit of God.
Now, with all that said, lay it on me lol. Please! I do need help here. I can't seem to get all this together and find enough resources to make my case.
Any help would be appreciated!
Forgiven much, Tamara Slack
Lord's Day 1 Q: "What is your only comfort in life and in death?" A: "That I am not my own, but belong - body and soul, in life and in death - to my faithful Savior Jesus Christ."
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Charles Leiter, Paul Washer, Neonomianism & New Cov. Theology
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TamaraSlack
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Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:12 AM
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Pilgrim
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Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:12 AM
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Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:27 AM
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Pilgrim
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Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:38 AM
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Tom
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Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:32 AM
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