Sunday night I attended an installation of an assistant pastor in a nearby city. The pastor who gave the charge to the Session, based his charge on Ephesians 4:1-16. In it he mentioned in verse 11 about the gifts of apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers. Of course, apostles and prophets are no longer practiced gifts (or office). He also said he is persuaded that the gift (or office) of evangelists as presented in Ephesians 4 as not being practice today as well. He said he didn't have time to delve into that, nor was it the place as he wanted to spend his time on pastors (shepherds) and teachers in making the charge.

Although I probably would have sympathy with him, I have not heard of that particular gift (or office in Eph 4:11) as no longer being practiced as presented in Ephesians 4. Has anyone of you heard a deeper understanding of that?

John Chaney

"having been firmly rooted and now being built up in Him and established in your faith . . ." Colossians 2:7